SPN: Brotherly Manlove by Winchesters (16)

[sargraf]

Chapter "Shadow" in the Catalogue of Touches between the Brothers Winchester. And in case you missed the previous installments:

Pilot. Wendigo. Dead In The Water. Phantom Traveler.
Bloody Mary. Skin. Hook Man. Bugs. Home. Asylum.
Scarecrow. Faith. Route 666. Nightmare. The Benders.

I'm all meta'd out right now, and specifically on Shadow. So this

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[astri13]

I hear what you`re saying about the Talk but I`ll forever shake my head that no reassurance was offered that leaving the hunt wasn`t = leaving Dean for good. It would have been the most logical thing to say. And I can`t believe it was Sam`s intention to really ditch Dean forever since I can`t reconcile the thought of loving someone and yet not wanting them in your life in any capacity. Brain cannot compute with this. *g*
So it does make Sam look like he is ony thinking about his wants here and incapable of reconizing and adressing Dean`s. *sigh* I can only speculate that Sam thought it unnecessary to say or I`ll go crazy. :)

Hee. I love the part where Sam hoists Dean up and is all insecure of his Hulkness. *g*

It's a heartbreaking image, and there is something poignant about the fact that Sam can look over Dean's head like that. I can't explain it, but it just hurts me good.

It is camera angles like that that make Dean the Woobie of the family. :)

The irony of the split-up at the end, after Sam's request during that talk, is not lost on me.

I was a bit weirded out because of their little Pow-Wow in the middle of a battle zone so to speak but I loved this. And I`m not being mean here to Sam but he needed to hear this, needed to experience being on the other side of the fence in this. Sometimes you need the perspective of hearing words, you hadn`t considered so bad before, being adressed to you.
That`s a big part of growing up, realizing that sometimes you have to swallow your own wants too just as others have to do. And I loved that he deferred to Dean here. Brotherly trust. Awww.

[sargraf]

I hear what you're saying, too. Perhaps, though, looking at what stand each is making here... perhaps Sam couldn't give that reassurance to Dean. Not so much for the sake of false hope, but from Sam's POV of Dean's POV, it might be like leaving the leash in his hands, you know? He is too concerned with making his point that this is not the life he wants, so that saying "but you'll always be in my life" is too much gray area for Dean. I'm not trying to say that's what Dean would do, but it's likely that Sam saw the possibility that Dean might interpret it that way, and stopped himself from adding it. Maybe...?

That hoist scene sort of sums up the Talk, don't it? Hee. :)

I do appreciate the karma of that farewell moment; I just get more annoyed by the mundane practicalities. :P

[astri13]

He is too concerned with making his point that this is not the life he wants, so that saying "but you'll always be in my life" is too much gray area for Dean.

Ah, that might be my problem right there. Because he makes his wants, his point a total priority there. Even if it comes across as "God, I can wait to go back to my beautiful life and never see you again."
And that`s just so not how an adult relationship works because that always consists of compromises and equal giving and taking. Especially when you`re in the position of less emotional vulnerability. Only a child will demand
so carelessly and unconditionally.

But then I`ve always seen the Season as Sam growing up from being a child with a child`s view, both good and bad, towards his family. So maybe that was a necessary step. If painful to watch.

[astri13]

OMG, I promise to stop beating the poor dead horse after this :) but I think the way I see it, is that Sam has all the power here and they both know it. So it`s not a very attractive quality to kick someone, who is already down for the count, to really, really get your point across. Feels like overkill to me.
Maybe that`s why it is my biggest Sam - you insensitive twit - moment for me. *g*