I'm finally into BTS.
I mean, in the back of my mind, I always knew it would probably happen one day, but I resisted it for a good long time. Why? Well, I have many reasons. Here are some of them, that I can actually articulate. They're just so mainstream, especially now. And I was never really into their music, or the guys. And most of all, ARMY members are SO ANNOYING. Like seriously, if you watch a drama on Viki and have timed comments on, INEVITABLY someone announces they're ARMY, and then a whole slew of people have to join in, and tell everyone who they're into, and it's like, WHO CARES??? We're watching a drama that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM?? JUST SHUT UP. Also, it was really aggravating as a fan of other groups, particularly a much less hyped group like BTOB, to go into a K-pop merchandise shop and find that 90% of their stuff was BTS. They were just oversaturated (for no reason that I could discern) and EVERYwhere and I wanted no part of it.
But I resisted being into GOT7 for similar reasons (they are a much more mainstream group than BTOB). Maybe it's a personality flaw, lol. The more people are into something, the less I want to be. And yet, eventually I did get into GOT7, and I got to enjoy the fruits of being into a popular group -- you could actually find merchandise, and they would actually hold concerts here, etc. Which I have to admit is nice. (So naturally, in that way, being into BTS is very easy.)
GOT7 I primarily got into because of JB and Jinyoung. I can pinpoint when it happened, too... it was when
adelagia and I watched Dream Knights, that show they wish would just blink out of existence. Haha. But it did what it was supposed to; it got me to see the guys as individuals and liking (some) of them, even though it obviously turns out that their show characters are not, in fact, them. :)) Still, it helped me appreciate (some) of them for their aesthetics, primarily JB and Jinyoung, dur. Jackson was never more desirable to me than when he was in Big Byung, honestly. Now that I "know" him better, he's still cute, but not hot. Is that weird? (I'm sure K. would think so.) That's just how it is for me. He's too much of a goofball who can't stop talking; he reminds me of my coworker C., but more lovable. Anyway, while I totally loved him in Big Byung, and was sort of okay with GOT7 because of him, Jackson wasn't enough to get me into the group. I remember it took a really long time for me to get into GOT7's sound. I was just so used to BTOB, who really focus on their superior vocal ability and the actual music. Whereas GOT7's music is extremely produced... you might even say overproduced. But that's their sound, and while it took awhile for me to appreciate it, I did, eventually. Now I have a whole catalogue of favorite GOT7 songs (many of which are absent from noraebang wtf. Another bonus of liking a group like BTS? All their shit is at noraebang, many with the *actual, real* videos. Like that is nothing to sneeze at).
Jin is my Jackson of BTS. He's the one whose name I knew, primarily because he did a couple of solos that I liked. I also saw him in an idol eating compilation vid, and liked him from that, because he could really pack it away. :)) However, I wasn't into Jin enough to get into BTS, particularly since I already had such a strong bias against them. And then the concert thing happened wherein I purchased BTS tickets for an astronomical amount and ended up going with J., and she rubbed me the wrong way so much that my resistance to liking BTS grew even stronger, because I didn't want to like what she (and the whole world) liked. But there are two sides of that coin, of course, because she's probably also the reason I was able to finally get into them. What little I knew of BTS as individuals came from her, and because she knew what kind of music I liked, and which songs of theirs I had a preference for, she was able to rec songs to me that were more to my liking. So while A., a friend from Korean class, recced things like "Mic Drop," "Blood, Sweat and Tears," "Dope," etc., J. was the one who recommended things like "Spring Day," "Boy in Luv," "Epiphany," etc. And while I can now appreciate all the songs A. recommended to me initially, I was not into them on first blush -- just like when I was first trying GOT7's music.
I wish I could have been into BTS when I saw them in concert and paid so much money to see them. It might have eased some of that bitterness over the cost. Then again, seeing them in concert probably mellowed out my feelings for them even more. There were songs I didn't know, but that I liked. And I did start to notice them individually -- seeing them live made a difference, because prior to that concert, I had always been prone to Jungkook, who I felt was the cutest. There was also V, who I didn't hate from watching Hwarang, but couldn't actually place. But holy moses, in person V was *ridiculously* good looking. He was beautiful in a totally arresting way that does *not* come across in still pics, or really even in gifs. It was unreal. He was the one I kept annoying J. by being like, "Who's THAT?" LOLOL. Also, he's the only one who "looked directly at me" during the concert -- I'm sure everyone around me felt he was looking directly at them as well lolol -- and I felt bad that I was covering my ears haha. He never looked my way again!
adelagia recently asked me what made me finally start getting into them, and I'm not really sure what the impetus was. Was it the fact that the last GOT7 album, and last couple of BTOB albums, were meh? Was it that it feels like it's been a long time since I even got to be excited about new music from either of those groups? Maybe I was just in a place that was ready to like something new. I don't know, but one day I was on YouTube and I decided to watch the "Fire" dance practice again. While I had always enjoyed it, this time it super blew me away. After that, I watched more dance practice videos, and their dancing more than their music is what really drew me in. I don't know if it's the choreography or their talent or both, but they have more explosiveness and better sync than any other group I've seen (even rewatching GOT7 dance vids now make me cringe a bit -- and GOT7 has some strong dancers! But as a group they aren't as strong... and choreography wise I've never been into that many of their dances, not enough to watch over and over and over the way I have with BTS). What's even more incredible is that three of them aren't even naturally gifted with dance (though obviously they must have talent on some level), which means they have to seriously work their asses off in order to keep up with the others to be able to be THAT in sync. Being able to appreciate their dancing really helped with appreciating their music, too.
When I was in DC for work, because I was frequently bored, I started first looking up GOT7 gifs. And then somehow, I myself don't even know how or why, I started looking up BTS gifs, particularly of V, who I knew
adelagia at least recognized and thought was attractive. Maybe it was that I had finally watched one of those YouTube videos of them doing stuff other than performing, and started appreciating V then (especially his love of animals). But basically that work trip to DC gave me a lot of opportunity to find stuff like that, because all I had was time and my phone. LOL.
Honestly, for me, when it comes to music, a lot of it is just about getting used to a certain style/sound. I still think my taste in their music is probably very unlike other people's, though.
adelagia asked for my top 10 songs by them, and this is what I sent her, in no particular order:
Idol
I'm Fine
The Truth Untold [전하지 못한 진심]
Answer: Love Myself
Two! Three! (Hoping for More Good Days) [둘! 셋! (그래도 좋은 날이 더 많기를)]
Mikrokosmos [소우주]
Boy in Luv [상남자]
War of Hormone [호르몬 전쟁]
Danger
Silver Spoon [뱁새]
My true top 10 would include Fire and Spring Day, but she already knows those songs so I cheated and didn't include them. Would any "normal" ARMY pick those songs as their top songs? I have no idea, but certainly some of their most famous songs (see what A. recommended, above) aren't on there.
Even though I don't hate them anymore, and even like them, I must say old habits are hard to break. I still don't consider myself ARMY, even though I guess I technically am? But here's an example of my clear inner conflict. :)) As a true fan, I should be happy about the fact that their most recent album, which was released about a month ago, is one that I really like. It's a much different sound than what they've done before, and I thought I would feel "meh" about it, the same way I felt about the most recent albums by BTOB and GOT7, two groups I truly love. Instead, I was shocked and dismayed to find that I was totally into EVERY song on "Map of the Soul: Persona," even though it's a different sound for them and V (my bias) seems to be taking more of a backseat vocally. (It's an EP so there are "only" seven songs. But I like ALL of them.) Like what???? Why did they have to release an album I enjoy so much, when the groups I love haven't been able to do that? And yet, what a weird thought lol. I should be happy that a group I now like, released music I like. And yet that's where it's clear I still hold some remnants of my BTS grudge. (However, you could argue that because it was released when I wasn't a fan, they will disappoint me with their next album. :P)
Anyway, now that I'm into them, I actually would really love to see them in concert again, now that I can actually appreciate it. I recently looked at the setlist they performed at the concert I attended, and I was shocked by how many songs I now know and like -- and felt once more that that had been such a waste. :(( I wouldn't pay that much again, but it's always more fun to see a group when you know their songs and the members.
But, speaking of that, GOT7 is coming back for a worldwide tour, though it was announced incredibly late. :/ So late that
adelagia and K. will be in Seoul when they're here, which is a very bitter pill for all of us to swallow. Initially I was super bummed, because the idea of traveling to LA for a concert by myself wasn't appealing. Then I thought about it some more, and figured, oh what the fuck, why not. It's not like you're conversing during the concert ANYWAY, and I would want to get a seat again as opposed to standing in a pit. So I told myself that if it worked out with the dates, work, airfare, and places to stay, I'd do it. Then I noticed that their concert in Oakland was only four days removed from their LA concert, so why the fuck not go to that too?! MIGHT AS WELL. (I'm not gonna lie, I did think, "If Jinyoung is in a bad mood in LA again, or doesn't come to my side of the arena, maybe at the next concert it'll be better.) So there was one day when I did nothing but book travel, including airfare, Airbnbs, and car rentals, and it all somehow worked out. In fact, I got some really great prices on one-way legs that have since gone up. So in theory, I'm going to go to both their LA and Oakland concerts in July, which will make it an incredibly busy July for me, travel wise! On July 6 I'll fly down to LA for the concert that night, stay until July 10, at which point I'll fly into the Bay Area for that night's concert, then on July 12 fly to Vegas for a work event. And then I leave for Seoul on July 25. It's crazypants! Anyhow, at the moment my headspace is full of BTS, but I hope I can get back into GOT7 once their new album drops on May 20. Like
adelagia I prefer their music from the time of Turbulence-ish, and not their more recent stuff. :/ Here's to hoping "Spinning Top" will turn that around.
Also, we learned today Pentagon will be in Seattle for a concert in Sept! So a few of us from Korean class are planning to go. Their highest priced ticket is $160, which is a VIP ticket that gets you a seat super close to the stage (or standing), and comes with a group photo and hi-touch (where the band gives everyone high fives before the concert as you stand in a longass line. It seems super terrible for them). That feels like such a ridiculously cheap price, lol, after what we've paid to see GOT7 and BTS in the past, for a lot less. The concert is at the Moore Theater, which is a traditional theater, and there are VIP1 seats that are supposedly actual seats rather than GA. I don't mind standing for the whole concert as long as there's no bullshit rushing to the stage going on; that I want to avoid at all cost! I'm guessing, though, that because it's a traditional theater, the pit will be used for the VIP1 GA, and the seats will start after that. So with the pit in the way, there really is no way TO rush the stage. *fingers crossed* Also, of course, I want to go because NO ONE EVER COMES TO SEATTLE. So we have to support Pentagon coming here, and have a great turnout, so that other groups will consider coming here instead of LA all the fucking time. I don't know what getting tickets is going to be like; will there be an easy way to specify VIP1 (seated)? God I hope so. Otherwise I guess
adelagia and I will just have to put in "best available" and let fate take the wheel. :/
Okay, and now for maybe the biggest news of all? I might have my first slash ship? I'm not sure. LOL. I mean I don't know if they can be considered my first or not. I don't NOT slash JB and Jinyoung (JJP), but I also don't need them to be romantically involved. Their bromance is enough for me to be happy, whether or not they kiss. They have sometimes almost-kissed, and I have delighted in that, but I haven't ever felt compelled to read fic about them. However, I feel that my interest in Taehyung (V's real name) and Jungkook is definitely on the slashy side. Of COURSE, if they're just close friends or hyung/dongsaeng or whatever, I'm happy for them and would never insist that it has to be something else -- BE HAPPY HOWEVER AND WHATEVER YOU ARE, MY BAES -- but that said, I do tend far more to see them or want to see them as being cuties in love. The idea of that makes me squee a lot more than JB/Jinyoung being in love as opposed to heterosexual life partners... but that could possibly be because *I* want to be with Jinyoung! LOL. Whereas with Taehyung and Jungkook I don't want to be with them personally, maybe because they're so goddamn young, lol.
(Which is, I know, ridiculous because they aren't THAT much younger than other idols I like. Jinyoung is only a year older than Tae, while Sungjae is the same age. Maybe it's because Tae *seems* a lot younger or something... his eccentric personality makes him seem like a very old soul and yet totally pure and innocent. You know who he reminds me of? Milla Jovovich's character in The Fifth Element. That's Tae. And Jungkook actually *is* super young. He was born in 1997, my god. I've always claimed that my bar is if I could have given birth to you -- not in terms of biology, but in terms of when, in my life, I legitimately could have had you if things had gone a different way -- I can't be into you, lol. And Jungkook reallllllllllly rides that line, because he was born when I was juuust about to turn 20, and that seems like a line I have to draw haha.)
Anyway, I would much rather see Tae and Kookie with each other than with me or any of their hordes of fangirls, so I guess that's how this slash ship was born for me! I even went back on Tumblr to enjoy it in all its glory! HAHA. I even have fic saved to read, but I'm a little bit leery of diving in, because when you hardcore ship something, and start reading fic, it fundamentally changes the way you think about it and approach it, and I kind of don't want to lose that. I want to be able to enjoy everything happily, instead of in bitterness of my ship doesn't do the things I now expect them to do due to headcanon that's been created from reading fic. >< I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS REGARD OKAY.
Anyway, that's the big K-pop update! Tata! (Okay so BTS members in partnership with LINE created these adorable cartoon characters, and the one V did was Tata. So of course I ship Tata with Cooky, the rabbit Jungkook created.) See
this Tumblr post for a rundown on each character's personality. :P
This post was originally made at
Dreamwidth. To reply at Dreamwidth, click
here. To view the entry's
comments, click
here.