Sorry to be so late to this post. This week has been a bit busy, haha.
You can't TELL me his character isn't coming back someday.
Hopefully he'll have ditched Krieg by then. >.>
Liffey loves riding on whatever ornament sticks off the front of a ship.
(lol, what happened to Luffy's name?) My favorite part of this is the way he assumes everyone else wants to sit there, too. ("You can't sit here, this is my seat!")
Yosaku explains that the Grand Line is ruled by three great powers, of which the "Seven Warlords of the Sea" is (are?) one.
Hmm, I read this a little differently. I don't have the book with me to quote, but the line is something like "There are three ruling powers that are the reason the Grand Line is called a "pirates' graveyard." That might leave room for some other ruling powers that don't necessarily go after pirates.
[Fishman Island]I laughed when Yosaku stopped in the middle of his history lesson because Luffy and Sanji were getting bored. We had to wait like 60 volumes because of them! (Not that it would have meant much before
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Have you got to the end of Fishman Island in the currently running manga? Don't read in email, if sosara_tanaquilJune 20 2012, 14:23:56 UTC
Hopefully he'll have ditched Krieg by then. >.>
AMEN.
what happened to Luffy's name?
LOL, I have no idea! I think I was composing that comment on my iphone in iaWriter or something, the spell check must have run mad. I can't believe I haven't noticed it in all this time, because I usually obsessively re-read my own posts looking for typos.
Hmm, I read this a little differently.
I agree (also from memory) that your quote is closer to literal, but I'm not sure what difference that makes to the interpretation? I should quit being lazy and just go look up the conversation in volume 25 where they talk about the balance of powers on the Grand Line.
[Fishman Island]Re: the history lesson, LOL, so true. Pay attention to your lessons, Luffy
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Re: Have you got to the end of Fishman Island in the currently running manga? Don't read in email, iwednesday_10_00June 20 2012, 14:37:58 UTC
Haha, I am actually not at the end of the Fishman Island arc, so thanks for the warning. I was actually a couple volumes behind when I started my re-read, so I'm looking forward to getting there...eventually. (Almost halfway now! But taking a break because my June manga just got here. Skypeia not NEARLY as bad as I remembered. It's sort of funny how different my reading of Robin is this time around.)
I'm not sure what difference that makes to the interpretation?
Oh, I think I misread what you wrote under the spoiler. I thought you were trying to figure out why there were only three powers when we've met so many, but I see now that you've just lumped a bunch in with "World Government." Don't know what I was thinking, sorry. (Also, I'm not sure that I remember this conversation in volume 25, so if you look it up, point it out to me, please?)
Re: Have you got to the end of Fishman Island in the currently running manga? Don't read in email, isara_tanaquilJune 20 2012, 14:50:22 UTC
LOL, it's not a huge spoiler, but skip it, in that case. I was just commenting on a further example of Luffy's inability to listen to his history lessons.
[Volume 25]The specific reference to "three great world powers" is in the scene where the Gorousei are introduced, in chapter 233. The three powers are not explicitly named, but they are definitely talking about the Shichibukai and the Four Emperors, at least; that would tend to imply that the Gorousei themselves (= World Gov't) are the third. There might be some more stuff in chapter 234, where the Shichibukai are all lounging around acting like rebellious punks (the ones that showed up, at least). I LOVE those two chapters, it's unbelievable how much expositiony/foreshadowy stuff got squashed into those few pages. And I remember being completely and utterly baffled by those same chapters the first time through.
[Skypeia]How far are you into Skypeia now? I am somewhere around volume 28 (didn't make much progress for this last week). I agree that it is far more interesting when you realize how much
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Re: Have you got to the end of Fishman Island in the currently running manga? Don't read in email, iwednesday_10_00June 20 2012, 15:49:26 UTC
I remember being completely and utterly baffled by those same chapters the first time through.
Yeah, my first time, I was like, "who are these people and why do I care?" and I think I didn't pay too much attention, so then I had a similar "boring!" reaction (partly from the more complicated vocabulary that comes up in such scenes, I'm sure) when there were similar scenes later, and then it became a self-fulfilling prophecy, because I hadn't paid enough attention to them in the past, so wouldn't understand what the heck they were talking about, etc, etc. Lots more interesting this time around.
[Skypeia] I just started 29. What surprised me is how much foreshadowing there is about poor Merry. I mean, it did get beat up a lot, and it's not like I didn't see that the first time, but knowing what happens later, it makes me cringe every time on this read-through.
You can't TELL me his character isn't coming back someday.
Hopefully he'll have ditched Krieg by then. >.>
Liffey loves riding on whatever ornament sticks off the front of a ship.
(lol, what happened to Luffy's name?) My favorite part of this is the way he assumes everyone else wants to sit there, too. ("You can't sit here, this is my seat!")
Yosaku explains that the Grand Line is ruled by three great powers, of which the "Seven Warlords of the Sea" is (are?) one.
Hmm, I read this a little differently. I don't have the book with me to quote, but the line is something like "There are three ruling powers that are the reason the Grand Line is called a "pirates' graveyard." That might leave room for some other ruling powers that don't necessarily go after pirates.
[Fishman Island]I laughed when Yosaku stopped in the middle of his history lesson because Luffy and Sanji were getting bored. We had to wait like 60 volumes because of them! (Not that it would have meant much before ( ... )
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AMEN.
what happened to Luffy's name?
LOL, I have no idea! I think I was composing that comment on my iphone in iaWriter or something, the spell check must have run mad. I can't believe I haven't noticed it in all this time, because I usually obsessively re-read my own posts looking for typos.
Hmm, I read this a little differently.
I agree (also from memory) that your quote is closer to literal, but I'm not sure what difference that makes to the interpretation? I should quit being lazy and just go look up the conversation in volume 25 where they talk about the balance of powers on the Grand Line.
[Fishman Island]Re: the history lesson, LOL, so true. Pay attention to your lessons, Luffy ( ... )
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I'm not sure what difference that makes to the interpretation?
Oh, I think I misread what you wrote under the spoiler. I thought you were trying to figure out why there were only three powers when we've met so many, but I see now that you've just lumped a bunch in with "World Government." Don't know what I was thinking, sorry. (Also, I'm not sure that I remember this conversation in volume 25, so if you look it up, point it out to me, please?)
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[Volume 25]The specific reference to "three great world powers" is in the scene where the Gorousei are introduced, in chapter 233. The three powers are not explicitly named, but they are definitely talking about the Shichibukai and the Four Emperors, at least; that would tend to imply that the Gorousei themselves (= World Gov't) are the third. There might be some more stuff in chapter 234, where the Shichibukai are all lounging around acting like rebellious punks (the ones that showed up, at least). I LOVE those two chapters, it's unbelievable how much expositiony/foreshadowy stuff got squashed into those few pages. And I remember being completely and utterly baffled by those same chapters the first time through.
[Skypeia]How far are you into Skypeia now? I am somewhere around volume 28 (didn't make much progress for this last week). I agree that it is far more interesting when you realize how much ( ... )
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Yeah, my first time, I was like, "who are these people and why do I care?" and I think I didn't pay too much attention, so then I had a similar "boring!" reaction (partly from the more complicated vocabulary that comes up in such scenes, I'm sure) when there were similar scenes later, and then it became a self-fulfilling prophecy, because I hadn't paid enough attention to them in the past, so wouldn't understand what the heck they were talking about, etc, etc. Lots more interesting this time around.
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I just started 29. What surprised me is how much foreshadowing there is about poor Merry. I mean, it did get beat up a lot, and it's not like I didn't see that the first time, but knowing what happens later, it makes me cringe every time on this read-through.
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