anti12-step rant
, hence the cut. X-posted from my LJ/other communitiy
I went to an OA meeting today (Overeaters Anonymous), and this person was there who generally behaves like an ****. Ok. Wednesday meeting (where I am treasurer): I talked about the issue I have with god and 'spirituality' being part of the OA programme. It really causes a lot of problems for me; OA uses AA's extremely dodgy theology - see http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-heresy.html, and I am an atheist (or at least an atheistic pagan/paganistic atheist). Anyway. **** was at that meeting, and at the meeting the next day - which a friend of mine attended. My friend told me that wanker had said that a person with a service position at the previous days meeting had expressed problems with OA spirituality. **** went on to say that people who express problems with OA spirituality cause problems for the newcomer. WRONG. Many newcomers find the god thing weird. How will spirituality stop you from bingeing on whatever/starving/compulsive exercising etc etc. A newcomer said they found the god thing difficult to handle, as did my friend. This is supposed to be Overeaters ANONYMOUS, ppl. There are only three people who do service at the Wednesday meeting - this is not compatible with 'who you see here, what you hear here, when you leave here, let it stay here.' Fluffing bollards. GRR. I shared about this at the meeting I went to today (2 meetings a week at the moment), but had to be very vague as wanker was in the room, and I try not to be a hypocrite. **** said (according to my friend) that I should go to fluffing Weight Watchers! Not bloomin' likely. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop eating compulsively; you don't have to buy in to crazy AA theology.
This incident can serve as a reminder to me that I really need to set up a non-12 step group for people with eating disorders. OA has really helped me, but only in combination with counselling and self-helpy doodas. I tried to work the steps, and only when I stopped trying did I achieve abstinence from binge-eating.
Humphf. Stompy.
I went to an OA meeting today (Overeaters Anonymous), and this person was there who generally behaves like an ****. Ok. Wednesday meeting (where I am treasurer): I talked about the issue I have with god and 'spirituality' being part of the OA programme. It really causes a lot of problems for me; OA uses AA's extremely dodgy theology - see http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-heresy.html, and I am an atheist (or at least an atheistic pagan/paganistic atheist). Anyway. **** was at that meeting, and at the meeting the next day - which a friend of mine attended. My friend told me that wanker had said that a person with a service position at the previous days meeting had expressed problems with OA spirituality. **** went on to say that people who express problems with OA spirituality cause problems for the newcomer. WRONG. Many newcomers find the god thing weird. How will spirituality stop you from bingeing on whatever/starving/compulsive exercising etc etc. A newcomer said they found the god thing difficult to handle, as did my friend. This is supposed to be Overeaters ANONYMOUS, ppl. There are only three people who do service at the Wednesday meeting - this is not compatible with 'who you see here, what you hear here, when you leave here, let it stay here.' Fluffing bollards. GRR. I shared about this at the meeting I went to today (2 meetings a week at the moment), but had to be very vague as wanker was in the room, and I try not to be a hypocrite. **** said (according to my friend) that I should go to fluffing Weight Watchers! Not bloomin' likely. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop eating compulsively; you don't have to buy in to crazy AA theology.
This incident can serve as a reminder to me that I really need to set up a non-12 step group for people with eating disorders. OA has really helped me, but only in combination with counselling and self-helpy doodas. I tried to work the steps, and only when I stopped trying did I achieve abstinence from binge-eating.
Humphf. Stompy.