Notes of a Native Son of Krypton

Sep 15, 2004 18:24

For a break from my reading on Sunday I went to a library or bookstore, and there read an Elseworlds from DC Comics (that's their imprint for "what if" or sometimes "what about" books): Red Son asks the question, what if Superman fell on Russia instead of Kansas. I don't want to ruin it for anyone who wants to read it, but the ending does bear ( Read more... )

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elahadrun September 15 2004, 21:53:15 UTC
I'm pretty sure what usually happens with black people in comic books is that they have superhero names with "black" in them. Possibilities include "Superblack" and "Blackman." You ain't got a lot to work with with superman. also there will be an original backstory that everyone tries to avoid acknowledging about how he was a tribal god in darkest africa before he found the u.s.

also, I fucking love superman. he is the best. the only thing that would make superman better is if he was wonder woman.

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a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. dr_smith September 15 2004, 22:26:45 UTC
Notable examples (of "Superblack")include Black Lightning and The Black Racer. I don't really count The Black Panther 'cause a black panther is a thing already. Black Bolt is not black (in fact, he's Inhuman). The Black Canary and Black Cat are both white girls. If I recall, The White Tiger was the first latino superhero (figure that one out ( ... )

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. drenormous September 16 2004, 05:13:10 UTC
Cyborg's back, too, thanks largely to the Teen Titans animated series. Granted, he's about 1/2 to 2/3 robot, but still. Cloak was black, before getting transformed into a living portal to a hellish pocket dimension ruled by a demon.

(and from the black women files: Flint from Stormwatch).

--MkB

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. unsi_sempai September 16 2004, 06:23:58 UTC
I wish Storm had been in the X-men movies.

No, that wan't Storm. There is no fucking way that that was Storm.

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. elahadrun September 16 2004, 09:34:05 UTC
serious.

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. samedietc September 16 2004, 08:14:40 UTC
remind me: after the death of Superman, there were four possible-supermen, yes? who were they?

and, to get back to our fiction-based counter-factual, what if Superman were black? Where would Clark Kent live in Metropolis? What sort of job would he have, and how would he get there? What would his work as a journalist be like? Would he have some issues of race solidarity to his superheroics (like in Astro City, whatshername, that says to whatshisface that she would protect a woman before protecting a man, all over things being equal)? Would he use his powers against racism? (Does he, as a white man, ever take on racists?) What would Lex's reaction be?

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. tragic_ohara September 16 2004, 09:42:03 UTC
Oh, lessee. Steel (theoretically imbued with Superman's spirit, or something); the little kid Superman (theoretically a clone); the half-cyborg reanimated Superman (theoretically a half-cyborg reanimated Superman); and the Man of Tomorrow dork-ass sunglasses guy (I forget the theory. Alternate universe? just another Kryptonian sent as a replacement?). I had the issue where they were all introduced, but didn't follow the story to its conclusion, so I still don't really know what happened ( ... )

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. dr_smith September 16 2004, 10:08:12 UTC
The first openly gay mainstream superhero was Northstar of Alpha Flight.

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. tragic_ohara September 16 2004, 10:13:22 UTC
Right, I'd heard that before and forgotten it. I can always count on my friends to renerdulate my useless-knowledge base. When it, uh. Lacks nerdulence.

-R.

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Re: a disjointed montage about the situation of race in today's comics. dr_smith September 16 2004, 21:36:06 UTC
Nerdulated.

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