I wouldn't go as far as to say that this episode was bad. Boring, definitely. Save for the revelatory Winchester Family Dynamics-scenes.
Not a picspam.
( 1x08: Bugs )
This is one of my favorite eps, but there is one aspect of SPN that drive me nuts, cause they usually do well with details/or maybe its just my thing... anything medical and Anthro based. (ok, biased, Post grad medical anthro was by thing)
And undergrad who took Physical anthro 101 could tell you the hallmark for IDing a Indian skull is the shovel shaped incisors. That is beyond basic.. like day 1. So this Prof really sucks. Broad cheek bones, wider nasal opening..dude, its pretty damn easy. (Psst the skull wasnt Native American, just a token white person).
The age dating?? If Bubba cant ID with more certainity the race, I kinda would like to know how he aged that puppy! By visual exam, you can not tell if a skeleton is from 10 years ago or 1000 years ago, not since the last big change from the Ice Age. You can age the person at time of death... but that's it.
Yuchi Indians...did I mention that not only did I study forensic Anthro, but right here, in East Tn, the Mecca for it..and where the Yuchi are from. The Yuchi were a small tribe in East TN/West NC. The Cherokee pretty much wiped them out...even before the white people got involved.
The few stragglers that survived, alligned with the Creek and like all indigenous people, were relocated to Oklahoma via the Trail of Tears. There wouldnt have been a slaughter once there... cause thats was the final destination and where the whites were dumping them off to live. The slaughter happened along the Trail of Tears and mostly to the Cherokee and Creek.
just a weird chose for them pick. The Yuchi were almost extinct, had their own language and still, to this day, no pure Yuchi exists and there are not enough to gain their own tribe recognition..so no, they dont have their own reservation. The one they showed on the show was from the Pacific NW, which I understand.. but the ethnic markers were that of Shawnee.
Sorry, babbling rant. You will have to throw me a xanax when we get to the crap ass cardiac care unit in Faith.
Still, I love Bugs. And its a great metaphor. This was Sam's metamorphing from his petty little self absorbed cocoon of adolescents into a mature being and looking back at his life with new perspective.
And there is just something roach like about Dean.. how he can nest & survive any where. And that's said with love and admiration! Evolution...Dean and cockroaches will triumph!
That's curious. The subtitles I fiddled with claimed the tribe's name was written as "Euchee"...
I'm willing to forgive this show quite a lot, because what comes across loud and clear is that the people behind the show have had fun while doing it, that they're winging stuff on occasion, making educated guesses and just thanking their lucky stars when the fans fall in love... And I love the resourceful, informed fandom this show has. *hugs*
Dean is indeed like a cockroach. And *glee* that's what comes out of the ground just before the boys park in front of the Pikes' doorstep... ;)
That is how Yuchi is pronounced...but the tribe name is Yuchi. There is no Euchee. I'm hoping it was a legal reason they went with it... if they picked a tribe that still exists, its risky... could get sued for slander/hate crime 'red man cursing white man' stuff.
Its just so odd that they get the most intricate details of some things right... and make huge, glaring faux pas on others, where they could get the info easy. Like digging up graves?? In the states, they are sealed with a concrete vault... you need a backhoe to exhume a grave and usually dynamite or some blasting agent to get to the actual casket.
For Faith, all they had to do was listen to JDM recite his lines for GA and they would know that Dean had a buttload of treatment possibilties.
But again.. its just a minor gripe, in the areas that I work in...so when I see a boo boo, that anyone who ever watched MASH or ER should even know, I shake my head.
The creative team kicks ass... they just need a medical/anthro consultant...and I would volunteer, for free, if they would slip in an occasional full frontal male nudity scene! :p
Sorry to whine, especially on such a great ep. Its like the holy grail for symbolism.
If I've gotten anything out of the RPGs I've been subjected to over the years, then it's definitely the idea that whenever Rules/Reality get in the dramatically appropriate idea's way, then the Rules/Reality can go take a break. :) If it's enough to suspend disbelief and most of the folks are having fun, then it's okay. Unfortunately, the larger the venues, the likelier it is to step on someone's toes.
I'd be willing to guess that legality has at least something to do with it. And I fixed the tribe's name: thank you for correcting it! :)
Oh, full frontal male nudity...! *glee* Though that would probably push the show's rating too far for CW...;)
The biggest issue I had with this eppy was that I actually have relatives in Sapulpa, so I know the lanscape/area well. So seeing "sapulpa" the way it was portrayed kind of broke the fourth wall for me.
Sapulpa is actually a bedroom community of Tulsa, Oklahoma. So it's not so reservation-y. and the Cherokee, while present, aren't noticibly different from any other ethnic groups in the area (since most of that part of oklahoma is in the middle of the cherokee territory).
In fact, a lot of that area is pretty prosperous, because of the oil wells in the area.
Native america is on the licence plate of Oklahoma. It replaced the old state motto: Oklahoma is OK.
If you're going to have a show 'set' in America, use real locations (or at least their names), you're bound to step on toes, apparently. Remember Hell House (1x17)? The place where it's all happening is Richardson, Texas...save for how it's nothing like Richardson. :)
My issues were primarily that they took so many pains to make it look like Sam and Dean were 'on the res,' So to speak. If that's the feel they were going for, they probably should have set the eppy further into the southwest. Or at least further away from a major metro area.
Considering that Jensen is from Richardson, I wonder if he had those "My hometown is nothing like this," moments, too ;)
And undergrad who took Physical anthro 101 could tell you the hallmark for IDing a Indian skull is the shovel shaped incisors. That is beyond basic.. like day 1. So this Prof really sucks. Broad cheek bones, wider nasal opening..dude, its pretty damn easy. (Psst the skull wasnt Native American, just a token white person).
The age dating?? If Bubba cant ID with more certainity the race, I kinda would like to know how he aged that puppy! By visual exam, you can not tell if a skeleton is from 10 years ago or 1000 years ago, not since the last big change from the Ice Age. You can age the person at time of death... but that's it.
Yuchi Indians...did I mention that not only did I study forensic Anthro, but right here, in East Tn, the Mecca for it..and where the Yuchi are from. The Yuchi were a small tribe in East TN/West NC. The Cherokee pretty much wiped them out...even before the white people got involved.
The few stragglers that survived, alligned with the Creek and like all indigenous people, were relocated to Oklahoma via the Trail of Tears. There wouldnt have been a slaughter once there... cause thats was the final destination and where the whites were dumping them off to live. The slaughter happened along the Trail of Tears and mostly to the Cherokee and Creek.
just a weird chose for them pick. The Yuchi were almost extinct, had their own language and still, to this day, no pure Yuchi exists and there are not enough to gain their own tribe recognition..so no, they dont have their own reservation. The one they showed on the show was from the Pacific NW, which I understand.. but the ethnic markers were that of Shawnee.
Sorry, babbling rant. You will have to throw me a xanax when we get to the crap ass cardiac care unit in Faith.
Still, I love Bugs. And its a great metaphor. This was Sam's metamorphing from his petty little self absorbed cocoon of adolescents into a mature being and looking back at his life with new perspective.
And there is just something roach like about Dean.. how he can nest & survive any where. And that's said with love and admiration! Evolution...Dean and cockroaches will triumph!
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I'm willing to forgive this show quite a lot, because what comes across loud and clear is that the people behind the show have had fun while doing it, that they're winging stuff on occasion, making educated guesses and just thanking their lucky stars when the fans fall in love...
And I love the resourceful, informed fandom this show has.
*hugs*
Dean is indeed like a cockroach. And *glee* that's what comes out of the ground just before the boys park in front of the Pikes' doorstep... ;)
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Its just so odd that they get the most intricate details of some things right... and make huge, glaring faux pas on others, where they could get the info easy. Like digging up graves?? In the states, they are sealed with a concrete vault... you need a backhoe to exhume a grave and usually dynamite or some blasting agent to get to the actual casket.
For Faith, all they had to do was listen to JDM recite his lines for GA and they would know that Dean had a buttload of treatment possibilties.
But again.. its just a minor gripe, in the areas that I work in...so when I see a boo boo, that anyone who ever watched MASH or ER should even know, I shake my head.
The creative team kicks ass... they just need a medical/anthro consultant...and I would volunteer, for free, if they would slip in an occasional full frontal male nudity scene! :p
Sorry to whine, especially on such a great ep. Its like the holy grail for symbolism.
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If it's enough to suspend disbelief and most of the folks are having fun, then it's okay.
Unfortunately, the larger the venues, the likelier it is to step on someone's toes.
I'd be willing to guess that legality has at least something to do with it. And I fixed the tribe's name: thank you for correcting it! :)
Oh, full frontal male nudity...! *glee*
Though that would probably push the show's rating too far for CW...;)
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Sapulpa is actually a bedroom community of Tulsa, Oklahoma. So it's not so reservation-y. and the Cherokee, while present, aren't noticibly different from any other ethnic groups in the area (since most of that part of oklahoma is in the middle of the cherokee territory).
In fact, a lot of that area is pretty prosperous, because of the oil wells in the area.
Native america is on the licence plate of Oklahoma. It replaced the old state motto: Oklahoma is OK.
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Remember Hell House (1x17)? The place where it's all happening is Richardson, Texas...save for how it's nothing like Richardson. :)
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Considering that Jensen is from Richardson, I wonder if he had those "My hometown is nothing like this," moments, too ;)
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