OK...not really spoilers but...

Dec 09, 2014 22:01

I FEEL VINDICATED AS EVERY JOHN!GIRL SHOULD.  *fist pump*

love my show, john

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strgazr04 December 11 2014, 11:20:47 UTC
Oh yea I totally agree. The mind erase thing was lame. I mean, what happened to "Of course you should be afraid of the dark. You know what's out there!"? Personally I think Ben and Lisa were connected enough to the Winchesters way back with the changelings episode. From that time on, any demon or w/e would see that Dean cared for them even before the time he lived with them. Why else would he repeatedly visit Lisa and even warn her before the apocalypse went down? So them suddenly not knowing about what's out there is more a danger than a help. I also wondered if Cas erased the whole neighborhood's knowledge of Dean. And what happened to all Dean's belongings at her house? Wouldn't something give him away?

Dean would teach his kids to hunt, definitely. I just think he'd try to go about it in a different way that John had, at least with some things. Clearly he did with Sam. (I've always had the idea that 4yr old Dean would try to take care of Sam in the way he saw Mary do it and it just kept going over the yrs) If John was gone all the time, who was training Sam as a kid? Who was sparring with him? It wasn't John a lot of the time if he was on a job. And I can only hope that John wouldn't make wee!Sam spar against him considering the huge size difference. It would make more sense for Dean to fight against him. I happen to think that's why they were so evenly matched in the fight in the Pilot, how they knew each other's every move and why Dean jokingly told him he was losing his touch (bc Dean would be the best judge of Sam's skills).

So, if Dean - by his own admission - was the one who was always there for Sam, taking care of him, etc, then I believe he'd raise his own kids in the same way. I just can't see him being the type to leave a ten year old in charge of a 5 year old for days on end and stuff like that. I also feel like he would abandon his own crusade in a heartbeat if he son called him saying his other son was dying in a matter of weeks. It's those kinds of stories we've seen/heard of John that I think are the moments the boys would feel that they wouldn't want to handle them as their father did while in the same token follow John's lead in the good memories (i.e. saving your underage son from a NYC club).

Was John bad all the time? No. Clearly, as per Dean's story, there were moments when he pulled through. But as the sole source of guidance and mentorship in the brothers' lives, he plays a rather heavy part in many of the psychological/emotional issues, personality traits, and relationship woes (as in the boys current struggle to be equals, and Dean's personal struggle between acting like a brother and a father to Sam). I swear these two could keep a therapist busy for multiple lifetimes LOL! And wouldn't THAT make quiet the episode?!

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