My thoughtswwatalonSeptember 25 2005, 21:48:09 UTC
"alot of people bitched and moaned that our match went to long last night" -When you're told to go a certain length for a match going a few mintues over isn't bad...you guys went some 15 min. over.
"as i watched the rest of the show i sure didnt see the fans stand at applause for the end of any other match but they were standing and clapping at the end of the 6 way. what does that tell me?? " -They were into the match the first 12 mins. & then after that they dies off. I honestly think (& some in the back agree) they cheered b/c it finally ended. "incase you didnt know wrestling is for the FANS"- True! It's NOT about getting yourself over. "if others dont think they can follow up then THEY need to step it up not us step it down."-Follow up? Anyone should be able to follow up a spotfest that lacked any psychology.
The main thing is that it is very disrespectful to your promoter & peers when you take up other worker's time. This means they have to sacrifice time in their match. The feeling in the back was that the match was too spotty & lacked psychology. It should have ended sooner than it did. I'm not trying to say you don't have the right to do what you do, I am just saying that you have to respect your promoter & peers. Not trying to cause problems, just giving my thoughts.
Re: My thoughtsrvd_mark_420September 25 2005, 23:37:12 UTC
we were never told how long to go... i asked another worker in the match and he said we were told to go out and get ourselves over. the fans died when we tried to work the psy. part of the match. our fans dont want to see psy. from the spotters our fans want to see moves from the spotters. you had the best pure athletes in one match. what the hell do you think the people wanted to see? a 15 minute arm bar followed by a 20 minute headlock the a roll up finish. damn that would have been great. cheered because it finally ended... i've seen a whole lot of matches where people STAND and CHEER when a match ends... yeah right.
as far as something being disrespectful i could care less what you think. we went out and did what we do. can i work a psy match? hell yes i can. can i work a spotty match yup sure can. i was told an hour and a half before the show started that i would be working. i got ready as fast as i could got to the show and attempted to plug myself in to what they already had.
did anyone follow up our match or was the crowd dead the rest of the night? sounded to me that they were dead and didnt care about any psy in the rest of the matches. so before you judge the way we wrestle know the fans that we have. our fans could give a shit about psy they want moves and lots of them what does a 6 way mayhem match in ROH look like? its a spot fest. fast paced and lots of moves. why?? gets the crowd going.
as far as you not trying to cause problems thats all i've ever seen you do. you attempt to cause problems everywhere you go. a reason why i've never agreed on you being a part of ngw. every company you represent in anyway gets a bad name because of it. next time before you open your mouth and try to give your thoughts on something you dont know anything about realize who your talking to. i know wrestling. i know how to work a match. so if you want to disrespect me and the other guys in the match by saying the fans cheered cause it was over then you not only just made one enemy you made alot more.
Re: My thoughtswwatalonSeptember 26 2005, 16:43:28 UTC
I'd want to see a match that tells a story. Actually I didn't see the crowd into it a whole lot after 12 minutes. A few yes, but not alot. I am not judging anything or anyone. You're all talented workers & I am aware of what the fans like to see. I cause problems everywhere I go? Really? Do you know this as fact? All I do is speak truths & my mind. Some people don't like to hear it. RCW doesn't have a bad name & I worked with them for their first 2 years nearly. WWA I worked for & they got a bad name yes, but I had minimal to do with that. And I also tried to help & support SCW, Sept. 30th show by giving names of talent I know. I know who you are, I know you know wrestling & how to work a match. I was not denying that or wquestioning it. I was not disrespecting anyone, nor was I trying to make enimies.
-When you're told to go a certain length for a match going a few mintues over isn't bad...you guys went some 15 min. over.
"as i watched the rest of the show i sure didnt see the fans stand at applause for the end of any other match but they were standing and clapping at the end of the 6 way. what does that tell me?? " -They were into the match the first 12 mins. & then after that they dies off. I honestly think (& some in the back agree) they cheered b/c it finally ended.
"incase you didnt know wrestling is for the FANS"- True! It's NOT about getting yourself over.
"if others dont think they can follow up then THEY need to step it up not us step it down."-Follow up? Anyone should be able to follow up a spotfest that lacked any psychology.
The main thing is that it is very disrespectful to your promoter & peers when you take up other worker's time. This means they have to sacrifice time in their match.
The feeling in the back was that the match was too spotty & lacked psychology. It should have ended sooner than it did.
I'm not trying to say you don't have the right to do what you do, I am just saying that you have to respect your promoter & peers.
Not trying to cause problems, just giving my thoughts.
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as far as something being disrespectful i could care less what you think. we went out and did what we do. can i work a psy match? hell yes i can. can i work a spotty match yup sure can. i was told an hour and a half before the show started that i would be working. i got ready as fast as i could got to the show and attempted to plug myself in to what they already had.
did anyone follow up our match or was the crowd dead the rest of the night? sounded to me that they were dead and didnt care about any psy in the rest of the matches. so before you judge the way we wrestle know the fans that we have. our fans could give a shit about psy they want moves and lots of them
what does a 6 way mayhem match in ROH look like? its a spot fest. fast paced and lots of moves. why?? gets the crowd going.
as far as you not trying to cause problems thats all i've ever seen you do. you attempt to cause problems everywhere you go. a reason why i've never agreed on you being a part of ngw. every company you represent in anyway gets a bad name because of it. next time before you open your mouth and try to give your thoughts on something you dont know anything about realize who your talking to. i know wrestling. i know how to work a match. so if you want to disrespect me and the other guys in the match by saying the fans cheered cause it was over then you not only just made one enemy you made alot more.
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I am not judging anything or anyone. You're all talented workers & I am aware of what the fans like to see.
I cause problems everywhere I go? Really? Do you know this as fact? All I do is speak truths & my mind. Some people don't like to hear it. RCW doesn't have a bad name & I worked with them for their first 2 years nearly. WWA I worked for & they got a bad name yes, but I had minimal to do with that. And I also tried to help & support SCW, Sept. 30th show by giving names of talent I know.
I know who you are, I know you know wrestling & how to work a match. I was not denying that or wquestioning it. I was not disrespecting anyone, nor was I trying to make enimies.
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