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Sep 06, 2006 16:16

IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN GOD, PLEASE HELP ME AND FILL OUT FOLLOWING SURVEY. You can comment as Anonymous or you can post a comment as logged in user either way is okay to me. If you don't want your survey in public please send it me by mail: dramacirque@gmail.com . Thank you. :)

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continued dies___irae September 6 2006, 15:57:59 UTC
ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY (Please answer yes, no or I don't know and tell me why did you answer like that (try to justify your opinion).

14. Do you accept homosexuality (The Bible doesn't accept homosexuality: If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Leviticus 20:13)

That is a confusing question. Homosexuality in of itself exists, I do not deny that. While I do consider homosexuality intrinsically disordered I do not feel it is intrinsically sinful. The sin occurs when the homosexual tendancies are actively persued, for example homosexual acts are sinful outright. Just as someone who is predisposed to alcoholism is disordered but not in sin, unless they actively choose to abuse alcohol.

15. Would you give to homosexuals right to marry (The Bible says that marriage is a bond between a women and a man.)

First of all, marriage is not a right legally, it is a privilege. More over, no matter what is decided upon by a human institution, eg. governments, it is not marriage. We can attempt to marry anyone to anything that we want, but unless the two marrying are a single male and female who are desiring and willfully committing to the marriage, there will not be a marriage. The only thing that will be granted in such circumstances is legal documents that have no true bearing on the sacrament of marriage. So I spose the answer is no, in that not only we shouldn't, but that we can't.

16. Would you give to homosexuals right to adopt? (Some say that a child needs a father and a mother.)

No, it is a disservice to children to not be raised in an ordered household, to have a proper influence from both father and mother.

17. Could you be a friend of a person who is same gender as you and is homosexual?

Yes, the person is not evil, their homosexual tendancies have no bearing upon the state of their soul.

18. How would you react if your child says that he/she is homosexual?

I would be sure that they truly understood what that meant. In the world today there is a lot of discussion about homosexuality and I feel that many people may be led to confusion about their feelings. If they truly felt that they were homosexual then I would be sure that they realized that it was not an evil thing but that they were bond, as all people are, to live chastely and not act upon their homosexual tendancies.

19. Do you feel that God doesn't accept homosexuality and people who are gay?

No, GOD loves all of His children. He places no extra expectations on people with homsexual tendancies than He does upon anyone else. He asks that they stay faithful to His commandments and to properly love Him and His people.

20. Do homosexuals go to hell because of their sexuality?

No, people with homosexual tendancies are not automatically condemned to hell. As with all people they will be held accountable for the actions (thoughts, words and deeds) that they chose to commit both good and evil and GOD will justly and mercifully judge them accordingly.

21. Do you have anything else to say about homosexuality, God, The Bible or about you faith?

I believe that the biggest problem with homosexuality is that people identify thsemselves by their disorder. You do not meet people that say "hello, my name is John and I am attracted to cattle". Surely because of psychological implications there is only so much an individual can do to deal with such disorders, but living a life despite them is very different than living a life for them.

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Re: continued singalleluia September 6 2006, 17:26:44 UTC
your answers are really hardcore, nice job.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 6 2006, 18:18:08 UTC
heh, thanks

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Re: continued meltlet September 7 2006, 03:40:59 UTC
I know this is a survey and all...but it's been so hard for me not to say something...so I'm just going to say this one thing.

f they truly felt that they were homosexual then I would be sure that they realized that it was not an evil thing but that they were bond, as all people are, to live chastely and not act upon their homosexual tendancies.

How could you possibly do that to your own child? "Oh that's ok that you're homosexual, but you're never allowed to love and you're never allowed to have a family or be held by someone or have any sort of intimicay" I'm sorry, but that's fucking horrible.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 7 2006, 14:04:26 UTC
Sounds like a very skewed understanding of love if you feel that would mean that they aren't allowed to love.

Further more, there are many people in the world that are called to be single their whole lives. It is not worse than people who are called to be married, just different.

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Re: continued meltlet September 7 2006, 14:29:20 UTC
Ok so now you're telling me they can love, but they can't act upon it. You're gonna have quite a few suicidal children if any are homosexual (and actually listen to you).

I dare you to go throughout your whole life without ever being in love or with anyone and THEN tell me it's not worse than having been with someone (not just marriage exclusively). Then you can tell me how you never felt lonely at any point nor wished to be held and touched like everyone else. To have that special someone to whom you feel complete just by being with.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 7 2006, 14:48:32 UTC
you still are very far off from what love is all about if you are still saying that.

nevertheless, there are many celeibate people in the world today who are full of joy in their lives.

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Re: continued meltlet September 7 2006, 15:04:33 UTC
Love is different to everyone. You can't claim that my idea of love is wrong just because you have a different view of it. And you, in fact, did say what I put. First you said not act upon their homosexual tendancies. And then after me accusing you of not letting them love, you said Sounds like a very skewed understanding of love if you feel that would mean that they aren't allowed to love. - implying that you would allow them to love.

Therefore, you're letting them love, but not act upon it.

Plus, just because you believe in celibacy and that homosexuality is wrong, that doesn't mean you have to force it on your children.

And this isn't just a matter of sex. Homosexual "tendencies" as you call them (which are not tendencies as that implies they go in and out of the phase and that they can actually control how they feel) ranges greatly between having a mere twinge of a feeling to being turned on by someone of the same sex to having sex with one.

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Re: continued forensicgirl September 11 2006, 04:43:55 UTC
there are many people in the world that are called to be single their whole lives.

But they are called personally-not told by someone else that that is how they must be.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 12 2006, 16:15:53 UTC
I agree, those who are called to a life of celibacy are called by their own nature, not the order of a friend of family member

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Re: continued forensicgirl September 13 2006, 20:57:11 UTC
Except there's an unreasonable focus on homsexuals in this regard. The assumption that because they are homosexual, they must therefore be chaste in false, and does not come from a loving God but from biased human beings. That is what is wrong. Chastity should be chosen by an individual because they have been called by God, not because the Religious Right says so.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 13 2006, 21:16:29 UTC
all people, those with homosexual inclinations or not are called to live a chaste life.

and yes, I agree people should be chaste because of the will of GOD not other human beings.

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Re: continued forensicgirl September 13 2006, 21:32:52 UTC
all people, those with homosexual inclinations or not are called to live a chaste life.

I disagree. Certainly, there is a time and place for sex, like everything else, but complete chastity for everyone? That's extreme.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 13 2006, 21:42:40 UTC
chastity is not synonymous with celibacy.

ccc 2349 "People should cultivate [chastity] in the way that is suited to their state of life. Some profess virginity or consecrated celibacy which enables them to give themselves to God alone with an undivided heart in a remarkable manner. Others live in the way prescribed for all by the moral law, whether they are married or single." Married people are called to live conjugal chastity; others practice chastity in continence:

There are three forms of the virtue of chastity: the first is that of spouses, the second that of widows, and the third that of virgins. We do not praise any one of them to the exclusion of the others. . . . This is what makes for the richness of the discipline of the Church.

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Re: continued forensicgirl September 15 2006, 01:18:20 UTC
chastity is not synonymous with celibacy.

The only difference I've ever seen is that the term chastity is usually applied to women. Otherwise I don't see any difference between them.

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Re: continued dies___irae September 15 2006, 17:38:37 UTC
chastity is properly using your sexual facuilties depending on your station in life, for single people that means no sex, for married that means sex with your spouse etc.

celebacy means no sex period

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