McCain Bashing D&D players

[ardantheblack]

ok, so this isn't exactly discussing game issues, but i feel this discussion needs to be made. McCain launches an attack on a specific group of people without a real connection being made, and i'm wondering if anyone can shine some light on this. Leave a comment

Comments

[ash1977law]

I'm a disinterested party in the USA political process, being a damn filthy Brit. From what I have seen of the political campains run in the past by both parties the Republoids appear (to an outside observer) to rely upon mud-slinging and name-calling and appeal to emotion rather than reason, or at least slightly more so than the Democats.
Personally I find both parties to be horrible right-wing groups with just a little varience to give the illusion of change.

Come the glorious revolution the US can get a democracy put in place and dump the current electoral system. Then you can be just like us and have four parties who just steal each other's policies in a complicated dance while calling each other names and booing each other in debate chambers. We also have a spare politician so if you need a new leader we are giving away "Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson".

[explosivespam]

"From what I have seen of the political campains run in the past by both parties the Republoids appear (to an outside observer) to rely upon mud-slinging and name-calling and appeal to emotion rather than reason, or at least slightly more so than the Democats."

Our media and Hollywood elite have worked very hard to make it appear just that way, but it's not backed up by the facts. Just look at the current ads. Obama and McCain are pretty even steven on the mud slinging. The only difference is Obama promised he wouldn't.

Another cause for that appearance is the difference in political savvy between our last Democrat and our last Republican. Trust me, the Clintons are filthy. But they're also brilliant. Bush... not so much.

[ash1977law]

Oh I didn't say both sides arn't filthy, sadly nowdays it comes with the teritory.

I laugh every time I hear 'The Media' blamed for bad coverage of a political party or a political figure. From what I can see from this side of the pond the US popular media has a distinct Republican bias, but that may just be my perception. The Tory party in Britain blamed 'The Media' for making them look like they were mud-slinging in the '97 election. It didn't help that Blair was running a clean campaign trading on his (realtive) youth and ideas and the Tories were running a poster campaign showing blair with demonic eyes.

This side of the pond we are hearing a lot about Obama touring forign cities to massive cheering crowds, and about his policies. All are hearing about the McCain campaign is his gaffs, and not a lot else as there dosn't appear to be much else to report ("McCain has no new policies" and "McCain still alive" are not really stories). As such the media abroad which has little bias (I will not say "no bias" because that is impossible

[pinkpolarity]

I've failed to see "Obama mocks gays" or "Barak speaks out against fans of lego bricks" or "Sen. B Obama tells of how he hunted the Red October", but doubtless when Obama cocks up as badly as McCain has he'll get spanked in the press too.

Yes, Obama has certainly done his share of gaffe-making. Of course, I don't know anything, I'm too busy bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion to know anything about politics. :P

[ash1977law]

Hmm, we've not really heard of any gaffes from Obama as big as McCain's.
When Obama comes out in support of GURPs we'll hear about it.

I'm too busy bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion
[topical satire]

[sergeantbrother]

Personally I find both parties to be horrible right-wing groups with just a little varience to give the illusion of change.

That's funny, I think the same thing except I see both parties as being extremely left wing.

[ash1977law]

Left wing??? Really?

I think it's easier to regard them as 'Lawful Evil' and 'Chaotic Neutral'.

[sergeantbrother]

Well, in D&D terms I think they're both Lawful Evil. I'm not sure how much detail that you want me to go into since this is a role playing community, but I think that the USA is basically a one party totalitarian state where both parties basically have the same agenda and the perceived differences are a false dichotomy created by the parties and the corporate media to give American citizens the illusion of a free choice.

I think is one party system isn't really left or right in the sense that most Americans perceive those terms, but if I had to pin it down, I would call it neo-conservative. Personally, I am a paleo-conservative and don't consider the agenda of the Bush administration (and the false two party system itself) to in any way represent my belief system or goals.