I like my TSCC scrambled, with a side of crazy
Theory, glorious theory!John Henry's "brother" tried to kill him and also wants Savannah dead. Those are two good reasons for John Henry to want to stop him. So why jump to the future to destroy the AI that's after him and Savannah in the present? Well, I don't think he did. I think John Henry is still in 2009 and after finding out Kaliba's
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I think we were probably meant to believe that they destroyed the chip after they'd gotten all the Barbara Chamberlain / ARTE stuff from it and were done with that mission. But since we never actually saw that happen and it was never mentioned, that chip could still be in play. It's not much more ludicrous than Cameron being in John Henry's head on a chip that doesn't fit his port ;)
I *like* the idea of Cameron and John Henry sharing a processor. There's a LOT of exposition AND drama to be mined from that circumstance.
The only thing that appeals to me about that is possibility of seeing John interact with her/him. But after one funny scene, I think I'd be quite done with that.
I have to differ with the concept of John Henry and / or Sarah making things right in present day: John clearly arrived in a world where Judgement Day had already unfolded. The future of humanity IS in John Connor's hands, and possibly John/Cam Henry's. If JH stayed behind in 2009, he's failed too. He's either dead, or he's laying low, creating infrastructure for the Third Faction. Or he's in the future with John Connor, where parts are more readily available for himself and Cameron.
How does John Connor fail is he stays in 2009? The future is only set right now because John DID jump (and that's why I despise BTR). If we don't see two ends of the timeline, then the future isn't set at all and they can continue the work to prevent j-day. The terminator story for me has always been about man's over-reliance on machines - the inadvertent creation of our own destruction. And within that story, the heroes are Sarah and John (and Kyle).
Taking that story and turning it into something where a machine is man's savior (or co-savior) and largely replacing Sarah's and John's importance with Weaver and John Henry is outrageous. As a twisty detour it could be interesting, but not as the final story. Having said that, I don't ever actually want Skynet stopped in present day, nor do I ever want j-day to come. I like the present-day struggle and once either of those things happen, the story ends for me.
FWIW, Weaver didn't have much trouble restoring the Cromartie endo or flesh, so Cameron should be similarly repairable, even in 2009.
Her skin would grow back and she could make repairs. Hell, if she needs coltan to make some parts, they know where to find a whole truckload of it! The eye was the only concern (I'm sure Weaver killed someone to get a new eye for JH), but she could wear an eyepatch or maybe go visit a hospital and grab one from a fresh corpse ;)
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Since John Connor and Weaver bubbled into a post-Judgement Day future, whoever stayed behind in 2009 clearly failed to prevent Judgement Day.
I'm with you on the continuation of the conflict, pushing Judgement Day farther and farther into the future, rather than the complete and definitive destruction of all possible avenues to the singularity.
I should really make my own post on this topic, rather than taking so much of your thread.
Cameron was in the business of hoarding parts, not destroying them. John Connor knew the chip was dangerous, but I was expecting Cameron to use Vic's chip as a platform for teaching John what he needed to know about hacking and reprogramming Terminator chips.
I don't care how good a programmer is; a new processor architecture, a new OS, a new software architecture must be explored and learned and practiced with.
To mis-quote from the Karate Kid: "Reprogram Terminator so-so, get you SQUISH like grape".
So if John wasn't hacking that chip, it's because it was gone.
The chips being incompatible is someone's speculation.
Didn't John use the same socket for reading Vic's chip AND plugging Cameron into the traffic control network?
What's ridiculous was John finding a socket for them at Radio Shack. Trust me, I'm an electrical engineer...
Cameron and John Henry have very different histories, world views, and morality. I would like to see them
work through some challenging situations together, maybe something that shows them in conflict, shows their accelerated consciousness, while the action takes place in slow motion, like Bullet Time from The Matrix.
The gender identity gag is old hat, I have no desire to see Thomas Dekker kiss Garrett Dillahunt. Squick.
BTR gave John Connor his wish: to live a life where he is not the Savior of Mankind. He needed to see the world wrought by his selfish refusal to man-up, to stiffen his resolve, to clarify what he's fighting for, and take that resolve back to 2009 to reengage the enemy. Perhaps with reinforcements.
Our lifestyle as we know it could not exist, for as many people as currently enjoy it, without reliance on machines. When we create or control a life, we must educate it properly, treat it fairly, or it may turn on us and kill us.
I too, want to return to the present day, to delay Judgement Day.
What are we fighting? Is it the self-awareness of Skynet? Is is Skynet's access to nukes? Is it the self awareness of individual Terminators? Once Skynet manufactures a bunch of them and turns them loose on us, do we have ethical obligations to them as individuals? Can we reason with them? (Not according to Kyle). Can we shape their evolution into ethical beings?
All of these things can be explored, without it raining Nukes or everyone singing Kum-ba-yah, or stoning people to death for using technology.
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I'm sure it was a messy business repairing the metal damage to Cromarties endo before re-growing the flesh and surgically enhancing it. Weaver knew how to do it. Cameron was probably capable of it too, if her chip is recovered.
Cromartie needed professional help, though, to make himself presentable. Cameron might be gone, for this cycle.
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