Why the fuck are there so many crazy people?

Dec 17, 2012 20:11

I don't even know what else to say because without the answer to that question, we have no hope of reversing what seems to be an upward trend of crazy fuckers comitting nightmarish acts of violent. Yeah, this is because of that school shooting-that horrible, awful, straight-out-of-the-depths-of-hell kind of evil that can only be comitted by a ( Read more... )

that's just fucked up, the evil that lurks, current events

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schmacky0 December 19 2012, 05:37:46 UTC
The moment the gun control issue came up I bow my head and shake it because I don't understand how that is going to stop someone who wants to kill other people. The problem with this country isn't the lack of gun control. It's the crappy healthcare system. Specifically the mental healthcare system. That needs a good long hard look. Gun control is just a band aid.

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roxybisquaint December 19 2012, 10:43:39 UTC
I was actually surprised that people seemed to be talking more about the mental health issue initially, but I guess I knew that wouldn't last. The usual call to ban "assault weapons" was inevitable. We had a ban for 10 years and it didn't make any difference because there are still crazy people.

If we really want to stop spree killings, we have to stop the spree killer types from wanting to do it. So I totally agree: this is absolutely a mental health problem.

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What about community cohesion? tackdriver56 December 28 2012, 00:46:41 UTC
Politicians in the USA have been dividing and conquering us citizens for so long, that we no longer have the kinds of communities that rise in the common defense. The Liberals point at the Conservatives and call us "gun nuts", while we call THEM coddlers and enablers.

I think we need to continue abrupt interventions when bully and exclusion develop in school settings, but we also need to give our kids honest, critical, constructive feedback, when they need to work harder, behave better, and conform in some ways to fit in to their communities. Parents, or failing that, other adult members of our communities need to clearly express and enforce behavioral norms, so that the little monsters tormenting cats don't become, or create, big monsters terrorizing communities.

I like ONE thing about Homeland Security: their mantra: "If you see something, say something."

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Well said. roxybisquaint December 31 2012, 06:28:32 UTC
Liberals point at the Conservatives and call us "gun nuts", while we call THEM coddlers and enablers

Well they are coddlers and enablers ;)

Y'know, I was recently thinking about all the guns I have and realized I'd probably be considered a gun nut by many. But I don't think of myself as a gun nut at all; I think of myself as a gun nerd. Every gun I own is different and I like the challenge of trying to master them all. Target shooting gives me a thrill and shooting well gives me pride. It's a hobby, it's sport, it's fun.

I guess the "nut" part comes into play when the Second Amendment gets brought up. I don't know any gun owner that doesn't strongly believe that the purpose of that right is to keep tyranny in check. But in modern daily life, that seems like extremist talk. Revolutions are what happen in history or in third world countries, not in a western republic! At least not today. What anti-gun people fail to consider is that taking away or watering down the Second Amendment could be the doom of a future generation.

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Re: Well said. tackdriver56 December 31 2012, 19:46:51 UTC
RB: "Every gun I own is different and I like the challenge of trying to master them all ( ... )

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Re: Well said. roxybisquaint December 31 2012, 22:25:40 UTC
Repost? Sure. You're welcome to quote me directly or just paraphrase ideas into your own postings/writings any time.

There ARE people in my extended circle who I do NOT recommend to own guns...

Actually this is really where we (fellow gun owners) can make a difference - especially gun shops and gun ranges. What you said reminded of the Colorado movie theater shooter who applied to a gun range and was rejected because they thought something was *off* about him. That alone can't stop a psycho killer from being a psycho killer, but if the gun shops he bought from felt the same way and had refused to sell to him, maybe it would've thwarted his movie theater shooting spree.

Of course that guy was into explosives too, so he probably would've blown people up if he couldn't get guns. So it really takes everyone - family, friends, acquaintances, neighbors, teachers, therapists - to pay attention, notice the brewing violence, take it seriously and try to do something about it.

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