OoTP Spoilers

Jan 14, 2005 11:57

Where to start?

Well, logically we'll start out chronologically.

  • Skipped laying under the flower garden, the sound of apparition, and Uncle Vernon getting a shock when he tried to hurt Harry.
  • Plenty of EMO!Harry (which as we all know, is the reason why OoTP sucked so much. Well, that and Cho.)
  • Emo!Harry is sitting on the swing in the middle of a 3rd world country deserted park in the middle of NO WHERE and he is thinking about Cedric [flashback to GoF]. {Cheap recycled footage}.
  • Dudley shows up. Messes with Harry in front of his friends. Harry freaks out because Dudley mentions not only Cedric and the horrible comment about him being his boyfriend, AND as an extra movie bonus, Dudley starts in on Harry's Mom.
    • I want to point out that Dudley is NOT that evil, or stupid in the book. But in the movie-verse, he is little more than a one-dimensional character used to make you empathize with Harry.
  • Harry freaks out and pulls out his wand in front of all Dudley's friends. (apparently movie-verse Dudley isn't the only one who got stupid)
  • It gets all cold and dark and Harry and Dudley take off.
  • They end up in this underground walkway-thing, and the Dementors show up.
  • Harry gets held against the wall while he screams for Dudley to run, and surprisingly enough, Dudley does what he's told. But he slips and falls, because it was raining and the Demetors make everything freeze. [They would be a good alternative to CFC's and HCFC's used as coolants today that deplete the ozone layer and contribute to global warming]
  • Harry fumbles with his wand. Finally gets off his patronum and chases them away.
    • I would like to take this opportunity to say that I don't think movie-verse does a good job of portraying the creepiness that the Dementors should be. I have always thought they were a little bo-bo.
    • I also have never been a fan of the fact that the Dementors are shown sucking out a person's soul in the movie-verse. It's called a 'kiss' for a reason. It should only take once to do it. That also makes it more suspenseful. This whole business of pulling away at their faces may look neat, but really it's very inaccurate and counterproductive.
  • Mrs. Fig shows up [I was disappointed with her actress, I pictured someone a little louder and flamboyant. She was all shy and hunchy]
  • Harry carries Dudley back from Oklahoma the underground-walkway-thingy and goes inside.
  • There is only 1 letter in the movie, the one saying he's expelled. Harry doesn't try to leave, and then get told to stay. And, to my great chagrin, there is no "REMEMBER THE LAST" howler to Aunt Petunia from Dumbledore.
  • Dudley still blames Harry, even though in movie-verse they were running together and Harry tells him to run, and Dudley does. [Logic also seems to be a thing of the past in movie-verse]
  • Petunia and Vernon get Dudley and just leave.
  • Emo!Harry returns as he falls asleep in his room after getting upset, punching the wall, then apologizes to Hedwig. It's all very touching.
    • I also want to interject here that they do a very poor job of representing the dreams throughout the entire movie.
    • They also seem to have some unnatural obsession with Daniel Radcliffe's neck. I couldn't understand it, but each dream/legitimency scene with Harry being all "Oh noes! I feel different inside, like I'm crawling with evil!" had at least 3 close-ups of his neck. It was like a vampire movie.
  • Harry wakes up because of some noise. It's the Order.
    • I didn't like the actress that played Tonks. The hair was not Bubble-gun pink, and she was only in 3 scenes for a grand total of about 3 minutes of screen time.
    • LOVED Kingsley. I think he did a great job! Rock the minority, Shacklebolt!
  • "If one of dies, don't break rank" made it to movie-verse, but the hilarious follow-up from Harry, "Is that likely to happen?" didn't. I was pretty disappointed about that.
  • Mad Eye movie-verse is RETARDED. In the book, they fly high, through the freeznig clouds to make sure NO ONE will see them. In the movie, they decided that they will just fly through the harbor, over Big Ben, by loads of Muggles and it'll all be hunky-dory because they had some real neat flying scenes in the movie.
    • Once again, I would like to reiterate, that movie-verse characters seems to lack common sense, among other things, like personality and what-not. But that's okay, as long as there are pretty things to look at, people will be happy, right?
  • I did like how #12 appeared. [Does that make me a hypocrite for inferring that people will like it as long as there are cool special effects?]
  • However, there was no hand written note from Dumbledore and no mention at all of a secret keeper.
  • Kreacher is there, but he doesn't cause Sirius's death, like he should have.
  • No portrait of Sirius' mother screaming in the hall, but there was a bit of clumsy!Tonks.
  • Are Ron and Hermione sleeping in the same room?? [Nice, go movie-verse!Ron]
  • Emo!Harry yelling was a bore [just like in the books]. I was glad when they moved on.
  • Fred and George's apparations are fantastic. Perfect! Totally startling.
  • Extendable ears! yay, and Crookshanks was a very funny scene.
  • Harry is still mocked in the News Paper. And they discuss Fudge's fear of "Dumbldore's Army" during dinner.
    • This scene stayed pretty true to the book, I think. I never really liked all that tedious stuff about politics anyway.
  • No fight between Sirius and Molly about the Order. Apparently ANYONE can hear about Voldemort's "weapon".
  • Trial went almost as expected.
    • Lucius is SEXY! I'm really not a fan of his character, but yum, I'd like to lick his face!
    • Is it just me, or is Mr. Weasley REALLY starting to look OLD??
    • Dumbledore is an ass.
    • Harry's new haircut makes him look like a penis. As does his emo!whining.
  • I FUCKING HATE UMBRIDGE!! ehem, ehem, SHOVE IT! [So, good job on making me hate her, movie-verse guys!]
  • Bones was kick-ass, like always.
  • Fudge can shove it. [Incidentally, that is a NEW actor for Fudge right? The one from PoA was someone else. Or at least, I think. I'm no sure]
  • No mention of prefects. I was very upset by that.
  • Sirius at the Train station dis-anamingus-es back into a man, and he's got a plush black bathrobe from apparently out of NO WHERE??? Where does he even keep his wand when he's a dog? He can't, right??
  • Here Harry gets the picture of the Order.
    • The Longbottoms don't look anything like what I was expecting.
  • Perhaps this is a good time to say that this is the first movie I've seen after reading the books. So it was a very different experience. I almost wish I'd waited to read them all until the movies came out, that way I could have paid attention more, rather than analyzing what they left out, and what lines were from the books. Also, I wouldn't be able to complain about their choice of actors. Although, I think I will always have an objection to a few, like Sirius. Hello, where did the HOT go? So from now on I will NOT comment on my like/dislike of an actor because that's really not fair. They can't live up to my expectation of Tonks, because they aren't in my head. [Thank God, otherwise I'd be a Harmony shipper, as I've noticed the producers of the movies MUST be, for all the screen time Harry and Hermione get together. This movie, in particular, was like, "Rupert who?" Poor, poor Rupie.]

  • Emo!Harry again on the train.
  • THESTRALS!!!
  • Luna!!! Perfect, fantastic, great. A bit more crazy that I imagined her, but that's okay.
    • I should mention here that I'm a shameless Luna/Harry shipper. And I would like to proudly say that Harry and Luna get more screen time together that ANYONE else in the movie [maybe even more than Harry/Hermione] And that, peoples, made HP OoTP a great movie. There was the carriage ride, a private scene featuring the mythology of Thestrals and barefoot!Luna, DA scenes, not to mention all the Ministry scenes. All in all, they spent a lot of time in each other's company. But none of them are better than the last one, with Luna looking for her stuff. Oh, comforting emo!harry and the common angst - I LOVE them. But that's all I'm going to say about that. So... on with the rest---
  • Gnarles and upside-down quibbler. [Though there is never any mention of the Quibbler after that, which, yes you guessed it, no Rita Skeeter and the expose that exposes all. My best friend was Very upset. And I missed Sprout crying and giving Gryffindors 100 points for Harry passing the watering can.]
  • Hogwarts is full of pricks, like Seamus (who I STILL absolutely adore) just like book-verse. And the INCREDIBLE gay Ron/Harry scene is firmly in place. [Rupert is deliciously good-looking in this. It's almost enough to make me wish that JK won't kill him in DH].
  • Umbridge's speech was perfect. But the look on Snape's face, having to sit next to her - priceless.
  • I've always hated how all the houses were in one class in movie-verse. And the Patel's aren't split up, as they should have been.
  • No quidditch, though, I think we all expected that much. I didn't miss it.
  • Filtch/Umbridge is my new OTP of all time. They have some great scenes together.
  • Classroom, outburst scene with Harry and Umbridge was good. Detention was perfect. I loved Umbridge's office. The plates of moving cats was a nice touch. But NOTHING was better than the glam!shot of Fudge Umbridge kept on her desk.
  • Hermione was a little too anti-Umbridge than I remembered her being. And a little too anti-rules, as I recall too. She seemed, overall, a little too OOC for my liking.
  • Sirius in the fire, but no hand reaching for him,
    • I would like to interject here my displeasure at the overall handling of the whole communicating-thought-the-fire-place thing in the movie-verse. It's not at all how it's described in the book.
  • The Hog's Head was good, pretty much like I excepted. Ernie McMillan was a nice touch.
  • Emo fashion seems to have hit Hogwarts as well.
  • Plenty of Ginny/Harry one-sided hints along the way. [GAG]
  • Nevile is the one who finds the room of requirements. Which I know is different and all, but I like it. I have a soft spot for Neville, and I always like to see him get more screen time.
  • No hex on the DA paper. No discussion of the name at all.
  • Neville was a bit too helpless and hopeless that I remembered him.
  • Luna's patronum is a bunny, Ron's is a Dog, and there are a few other's who are revealed in the movie that weren't in the book.
  • I hate book-verse Ginny. She's got no character, no emotion, no personality. But I rather enjoy movie-verse Ginny. She's got punk, and sass [and all that good stuff] and you really get to see her kick ass. I vaguely recall something about her being powerful, but movie-verse Ginny is wicked powerful.
  • Lots of Ron/Hermione hints along the way. I tried not to gag.
  • Cho/Harry kiss made me wince and shut my eyes. The growing mistletoe, ugh! I was so happy when she was the one who turned them into Umbridge. [I'm sad to say, it didn't occur to me till Snape said it, that she used veratis serum on her. Oh well, still a whore-bag in my book]
  • All the members of DA had to do detention. That was most certainly NOT in the book. The coins were left out of movie-verse. And Cho didn't get hexed, just shunned.
  • The snake/Mr. Weasley scene was handled well. But Harry didn't go with them, instead Snape shows up and whisks Harry off to the Dungeons to start Occulmency.
  • But, of course, there is the infamous evil!Harry screaming "Look at me" to Dumbledore. Personally, I could have done without it.
  • Chirstmas brings Weasley sweaters and the Black Family Tree scene. But there was no mention of Narcissa, or Tonks connection. I suppose that was an extra bonus for the book readers to see Andromeda blacked out on the tapestry.
  • And I have to admit, I loved the explanation harry gives Sirius as to why he's ashamed of the Mr. Weasley dream. "I think I'm turning bad" was such an interesting twist on it.
  • NO mirror from Sirius!!!!
  • But the very interesting idea of Hermione/Sirius [which I've always been partial to].
  • Bellatrix was a nutter. But I loved Helena Bonham Carter [she deserves all 3 names] rocked the crazies hardcore.
  • Harry/Neville scene was sweet. And I loved Neville's whole, "I'm proud to be their son, but I'm just not ready for everyone else to know it yet" was brilliant.

  • I'm starting to get a little jumbled here on the time-line so bear with me and this seemingly stream-of-consciousness [which is exactly what this has become] while I try to sort this all out.

  • High Inquisitor comes about after Umbridge sees how 'bad' Hogwarts is. [Now I forget the exact trigger]
    • There are quite a bit of moving-picture news paper sequences in this movie. But thankfully, no screen-wipes or freeze frames like there was in GoF
  • Montague of inquisitorial scenes.
    • Poor Trelawny. She looked a little meek this year. And she was at the start-of-term feast.
    • Snape/Umbridge inquisitorial scene was perfect. "Obviously." GAH!! I'm in love.
  • Weasley's product ban doesn't happen until next year, does it? I didn't remember that being one of the proclamations.
  • One thing that I was quite upset about, being the avid George/Hermione shipper that I am, there was no interaction between them. And in this book is when pretty much the ONLY interaction between them happens. So I was saddened by that.
  • Filtch outside the Room of Requirements was hilarious. Though, when one of the pustules bursts and gets on the camera after he eats some chocolates was disgusting.
  • Inquisitorial Squad was great. [and it was the ONLY 3 minutes that Draco was even on screen.]
  • When they finally get the DA, Dumbledore's exit was stylish [as, thank GOD, they kept in the movie-verse from Shacklebolt.] But there was no freeze time or conversation or anything like that. Just Fawkes kickin' ass and takin' names.
  • Hagrid's return was right on.
  • Grawp was a-dor-a-ble. And I smell some sweet Grawp/Hermione fics coming in the near future. It was so cute, how they portrayed that relationship, in the whole 2 minutes it existed. "Put me down!" Hermie's got some balls! [And yes, I'll admit it, the way Ron tried to get her back was cute too, wh-ever!]
    • Hermie/Grawp OTP
  • Umbridge/Centaurs was angry love to the fullest. I LOVED movie-verse "Tell them I mean them no harm" *Umbridge begging Harry* *Centaurs carry her off* "I'm sorry professor, but I must not tell lies." BLAM! In your face! And completely cathartic.
  • I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE SNAPE FLASHBACK SCENE. THERE WAS NO LILY, AND IT LASTED ALL OF 3 SECONDS. BOO!!!! I'VE WAITED MONTHS FOR THIS! But, on the other hand, I finally get teenage!Snape. Lily didn't even get a chance to stick up for him.
  • In one of the Occlumency sequences, there is a shot of the Mirror of The Erised with Lily and James standing behind 1st-year Harry when Snape comes into the picture, right between Lily and James. I squealed with delight.
    • JK said that they put things into this movie that foreshadowed things to come in DH, and that only strengths my belief that the Snape/Lily unrequited love with [very soon] become canon.
  • Speaking of foreshadowing, I ALSO think that the line Lucius says to Harry in the Hall of Prophecies about, "Don't you want to know what your scar means" was a foreshadowing for the last book. I am one of the many camp that thinks Harry's scar will be a horcrux.
  • Fred and George's departure scene was during the Owls.
  • Flitwick, or whichever that "music teacher" as there is never any mention of a music teacher at Hogwarts [it's the same actor. They get all the midget-size characters to be played by the same guy. GO WILLOW!!!] had the cutest little moment of celebration during the fireworks.
  • No Mcgonagall fighting Umbridge, not Hagrid running away in the night.
  • Owls - fireworks - Fred & George fly off - Harry has the 'Sirius is in trouble' dream. Pansy [not the character, she wasn't in it. I meant Harry is a pansy.
  • Get into Umbrige's office [no special knife from Sirius {or was that Pirates that I'm remembering now?}] They don't even get to make the connection when Umbridge shows up.
  • Neville/Ginny mention [which I very much enjoy] Draco: "I caught this one trying to help the Weasley girl." YAY!!!
  • Umbridge is evil, evil, evil.
  • This whole scene in her office is pretty much the same, Snape, Hermione making shit up, all that kind of stuff. It's just cut down a bit, like the rest of the movie.

    • DOES ANYONE ELSE FIND IT IRONIC THAT THE LONGEST BOOK IN THE SERIES GOT SHRUNK DOWN TO ONE OF THE SHORTEST OF ALL THE HP FILMS? THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.
  • Centaur scene I've already discussed.
    • GO TEAM GRAWP/HERMIE!!!
  • Now, we're down to the ministry. Obviously, this had to be condensed quite a bit, while still taking up at lest 1/3 of the movie. There was no room with doors and trying them out. No brains, no flickering lights, none of that.
  • They get to the prophecy room, Neville finds the orb [not Ron] and Harry picks it up.
    • At which point, I got flaming pissed.
    • The prophecy plays, ALL OF IT, in it's entirety, in front of all the kids, and presumably the Death Eaters that have surrounded them. They could all hear it perfectly well! Why did Lucius even need it? He could have just let Voldie read his mind to hear it in full. Honestly, it was utter NONSENSE, I tell you.
  • DA runs, there are a few spells thrown. [Ginny gets off a great one that quite literally destroys The Hall of Prophecies] which, begrudgingly, made me love her.
  • Also, so very nice Neville/Luna bits (SpiritualEnergy).
  • But over all, the entire Death Eater/DA fight was not as it was in the book, which was a disappointment to a lot of people. I wasn't one of them. I found it completely unbelievable that a bunch of kids could actually hurt the DE-er's. In the movie, they run. They are good at running. I found it plausible.
  • The veil is still there. *grumble* stupid archway.
  • Harry and Luna could heard whispers [no mention of Neville]. And, it's been a while since I read OoTP, but as I recall, I was always very confused about the whole concept behind it. But in the movie, it's inferred that Harry and Luna can, because we know they've both seen death.
    • By the way, was it canon that Luna's mom was killed in an accident/experiment gone wrong type deal? I honestly didn't remember that.
  • The Order shows up, kicks some ass - all except Tonks - who, despite being an auror, is nothing more than a babysitter.
  • Lucius breaks the prophecy. [loved that twist]
  • Sirius and Harry fight together.
  • Sirius calls him James
  • Then Sirius gets Avada Kadavered by Bellatrix [Yes, I KNOW that's not how it happened in the book. I know he just fell through the veil. But I always hated that. I didn't cry, I didn't find it at all sad. I was just very, very confused. It never made sense to me. So I liked that movie-verse guys took pity on us poor fans and gave us, even the non-book-readers, something concrete to hold on to. Otherwise, NO ONE would have understood.]
  • After that was the fantastic Count Dooku vs. Yoda Lightsaber Duel Voldemort Vs. Dumbledore Magic Duel.
  • Dumbledore rocks, like hardcore with the magics. I loved it. It was fantastic, everything the book was missing.
    • I always did tend to get confused in the action of the written word. I suppose I'm more visual like that. But I liked seeing this battle video-ized. I thought it was great.
  • No fountain coming to life to help. Dumbldore takes it all on himself. [badass]
  • I liked the bit with Voldie and Harry and the semi-possession. It showed Harry fighting back [even though it was with recycled footage, again]. It was sort of better than the book in that way. It showed the only way Harry is/ever will be better than Voldemort. I liked it.
  • The closing scene with Dumbledore I think I missed, because I was too busy trying to explain to my boyfriend why Gary Oleman wasn't coming back. Since that's the only reason he's been coming with me to see the HP's since he figured out [in the middle of PoA with "You know who would have perfect for that role, Gary Oleman." and my response, "That is Gary Oleman."] that Sirius was his untimate-man-crush, he was a little upset.
    • "What happened?" "He didn't die, did he?" "He's coming back, right?" was what greeted me as soon as we left the theater.
    • It was killing me to keep that from him for all these months
  • And the scene at the end, with Luna, as I have mentioned before, was fabulous.
  • Finally, the last scene, with everyone all leaving for the summer was a nice conclusion.
  • And my brother pointed out that he liked the last line about how "we have something to fight for" when Voldemort didn't because it didn't just show the trio, but it panned out to show Neville and Luna and the rest of the school. Which my brother was also so kind enough to point out, includes Draco. He won't admit it, but I think he's a bit of Draco!fanboy himself.


There, I think that pretty much sums it all up. I, of course, left of some parts. But I think I covered everything I wanted to. So, yay.

And if you actually read all this, wow. Just, wow. Kuddos to you. You must either really like listening to me ramble, or you are a huge HP fan. Either way, *loves to you*!

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