daybreak777 is allowed to laugh at this next statement--I might have a slight tendency to be blind to Leoben's worst faults. Just maybe. *g
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1. He been talking to the Hybrid(s) about her what with her destiny to lead the cylons to earth and doom humanity. D:!
I always find it worrisome that Leoben takes advice from the Hybrid(s). 'Cause he's crazy enough on his own. *g* As for freaky old hybrid and doom of humanity... I'm still baffled about how to interpret that.
2. I tend to think that was the Chamalla, what with Roslin's other prophetic visions.
I might have agreed with this early on but I've rewatched F&B way too many times now. (All for fic-related purposes, you understand.;-) Roslin's dreams were sympathetic toward him (or at least didn't show him in a scary way). And the result of the dreams was that she talked to him in person--which, if anything, benefited the cylons. He got to drip poison in her ear about 'Adama' (whichever one) being a cylon, and meet her and assess her for weaknesses, then take that information back to the others. Okay, possibly I'm over-analyzing this. Heh.
3. I hope hope hope think that prophecy was fulfilled when she told him she loved him in order to save Kacey, and then skewered him. ;)
I'm writing fic that says otherwise, but considering that Leoben's insane, I'm not sure he's a reliable source for accurate forecasts of the future... plus, it's freaking me out, spending this much time in his head. Eep!
*may have some slight issues with Leoben as regards Kara*
*laughs* Yeah, I'm kinda gettin' that vibe. I think my pick would be anything/everything connected to Kacey. Because he made her believe and care, and it was all taken away from her.
... that it was sex with a former captor whom she'd spent four months resisting, in part sexually. (At least I think that's what "It would be nice if you'd join me" meant.) It's not rape fantasy but it does cut it close, to me. So I wish there'd been some other way to portray it.
I don't think that scene worked in the storytelling of the show as well as something else could have. (Not that I have ideas on what it should have been, but that's why I'm not a show writer.)
I think he's the same entity as head!Six and head!Baltar. I'm guessing that he's an angel of the cylon god, and that his agenda is to unite the two races on earth (and under him.)
Head!Leoben just makes my brain hurt, but so do head!Six and head!Baltar. I'm okay with their existence on the show as long as I don't try to think what they're supposed to be/how they exist. (Maybe the show will surprise me and give a wonderful rationale for their existence. That'd be nice.)
All that previous paragraph is just a way for me to say: I got nuthin' for this question myself.
*laughs* Yeah, I'm kinda gettin' that vibe. I think my pick would be anything/everything connected to Kacey. Because he made her believe and care, and it was all taken away from her.
I do get that it's not all his fault. No, really! ;) I do think everything that happened with Kara in Collaborators and Torn is down to him - she probably wouldn't have gone that far down if she hadn't been screwed up to begin with, but he sort of pulled the trigger on her subscriptions worth of issues. What I'd really like to know is why he did it. To take her out of commission? Because he knew, somehow, that she needed to be broken down in order to fulfill her destiny? Or was he simply hoping to play happy family in there with her forever?
I always find it worrisome that Leoben takes advice from the Hybrid(s). 'Cause he's crazy enough on his own. *g* As for freaky old hybrid and doom of humanity... I'm still baffled about how to interpret that.
2. I tend to think that was the Chamalla, what with Roslin's other prophetic visions.
I might have agreed with this early on but I've rewatched F&B way too many times now. (All for fic-related purposes, you understand.;-) Roslin's dreams were sympathetic toward him (or at least didn't show him in a scary way). And the result of the dreams was that she talked to him in person--which, if anything, benefited the cylons. He got to drip poison in her ear about 'Adama' (whichever one) being a cylon, and meet her and assess her for weaknesses, then take that information back to the others. Okay, possibly I'm over-analyzing this. Heh.
3. I hope hope hope think that prophecy was fulfilled when she told him she loved him in order to save Kacey, and then skewered him. ;)
I'm writing fic that says otherwise, but considering that Leoben's insane, I'm not sure he's a reliable source for accurate forecasts of the future... plus, it's freaking me out, spending this much time in his head. Eep!
*may have some slight issues with Leoben as regards Kara*
*laughs* Yeah, I'm kinda gettin' that vibe. I think my pick would be anything/everything connected to Kacey. Because he made her believe and care, and it was all taken away from her.
... that it was sex with a former captor whom she'd spent four months resisting, in part sexually. (At least I think that's what "It would be nice if you'd join me" meant.) It's not rape fantasy but it does cut it close, to me. So I wish there'd been some other way to portray it.
I don't think that scene worked in the storytelling of the show as well as something else could have. (Not that I have ideas on what it should have been, but that's why I'm not a show writer.)
I think he's the same entity as head!Six and head!Baltar. I'm guessing that he's an angel of the cylon god, and that his agenda is to unite the two races on earth (and under him.)
Head!Leoben just makes my brain hurt, but so do head!Six and head!Baltar. I'm okay with their existence on the show as long as I don't try to think what they're supposed to be/how they exist. (Maybe the show will surprise me and give a wonderful rationale for their existence. That'd be nice.)
All that previous paragraph is just a way for me to say: I got nuthin' for this question myself.
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2. Hmmm, that's interesting. Head-Leoben?
*laughs* Yeah, I'm kinda gettin' that vibe. I think my pick would be anything/everything connected to Kacey. Because he made her believe and care, and it was all taken away from her.
I do get that it's not all his fault. No, really! ;) I do think everything that happened with Kara in Collaborators and Torn is down to him - she probably wouldn't have gone that far down if she hadn't been screwed up to begin with, but he sort of pulled the trigger on her subscriptions worth of issues. What I'd really like to know is why he did it. To take her out of commission? Because he knew, somehow, that she needed to be broken down in order to fulfill her destiny? Or was he simply hoping to play happy family in there with her forever?
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