notes on generation X/Y etc, and StraightEdge while reading wiki
reading wikipedia articles about various "generations" (ie: generation X). It goes without saying that my JW background kept me seperated from the common influences that intuitively bind a generation together.
need to understand the general worldview, to substitute for the worldview i DIDN'T get while growing up. My previous worldview was one of religious based nievity and pessimism about world affairs, enforced via the cult family unit.
i'm an outsider in all generations.
unnaturally protected from Generation X, and the MTV Generation (subgeneration of Generation Y).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Generation
As i grew, age anti-climacticly emerged me from my religious shell. I emerged to be greeted by Generation Y, their mass cynicism is very refreshing. But i'm angry that although i felt the process of growing up during GenX - i was hidden from any meaning in it. I saw it all going on from behind the fence, told that it was bad but unable to understand why, and embarased to let my "outsider" status show. This fence that needlessly kept me from my Gen-X brethren, i am now very angry about. You can't just protect a child from being a child - it was attempted to indoctrinate me with negativity towards my brethren. This was a truly self-important endevour on the part of the indoctrinators, as they were oblivious to the power of children to absorb subtleties from their environment and emerge (if lucky) with a kinder gentler worldview than the extremist one they were drilled with by indoctrinators. This NATURALLY DEVELOPED (ie: via natural childhood observance) worldview conflicted with the attempted indoctrinated worldview. This conflict essentially being the seed, the earlier me, the conflict could have been resolved in many possible ways leading to a lot of possabilitys that i could have been. After various otherwise unexplainable neurosis (depression etc) i finally ended up deciding to discard the indoctinated worldview. Unfortunately the heavyhanded indoctrination process sheilded me from many aspects of GenX, so i'm playing catchup.
So, i was oblivious to the good that came with Gen X, the meaning of it, until i emerged from my shell - only to find i missed out, Gen X was over, leaving me feeling like i have more in common with Gen Y's worldview. So i feel like i can compete better with Gen Y, but i yearn for that link i missed with Gen X. Gen X kinda scares me actually, as i have not learnt the lessons they have (and Gen Y may have also picked up on in their early years), i feel like exposure to social ridicule as a result is an ever present possability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang_Generation
there is also a defined Gen XY.
i think volunteering, or my more recently thought: Internship, is highly appropriate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X
Gen X's attitude towards technology can be summarized by noticing that most were either born after the 1969 moon landing, or were very young at that time. Therefore, to Gen Xers, "anything is possible", as long as you're willing to throw enough money at it. Thus for Gen X, success is much less a matter of if one can accomplish something; and more a matter of should one accomplish something: a "so what" factor. Gen Y may be all about choosing one's priorities (and then maintaining the will and discipline to follow through with them) rather than dreaming of the Possible (especially false utopias, per Nineteen Eighty-Four and other literature
in Gen X required school reading). Gen X knows that the United States landed on the moon, from reading the history books; but they didn't live through it and feel the national pride: it's a "so what".
this is interesting, may help me relate better with older patriotic generations. i feel that they are sitting on their laurels. so to them, the emerging counterculure worldview is an attack on their ego-retirement.
how does the Straight Edge culture get along with the various pro-Drug cultures? To me, as someone with pro-drug views, sXe seems inherently negative and judgemental. But sXe does seem to have a vibe of tollerance inbuilt - they seem to not like drugs, "but it's ok if you like them". Perhaps many sXers, being ideaologically nieve to drugs (like i was), don't understand that a big part of the anti-drug movement is based around HATE and intolerance. Pro-drug people know their history, and know that official anti-drug campaigns and all of their associated propeganda are inherently based in hate and intollerance when you trace it back. Since sXers will often quote official anti-drug propeganda to justify/explain their worldview, this may make them prone to give off a confusing image to others. I imagine it is similar to the word "nigger"/"nigga".
The word "Nigga" (purgurative: "nigger") is cool by today's standards. It conveys an image of, well... "cool". The term "cool" actually has it's roots firmly placed in black american culture and values. So "nigga" has kinda become the new "cool".
To sXers, their avoidance of drugs gives them a link to their overcareful parents (helicopter parents). I imagine being an sXe child will get you a lot of respect from your parents, which will inturn give you more freedom as they treat you as more mature than "other kids". You will also see yourself as more mature, a perceived quality which like all ego-centric qualitys can be used as a source of social exclusiveism/elitism and other judgemental behaviour. The sXers respect from their parents would setup an interesting parent/child relationship, as they are a part of the punk scene and therefore share a lot of their counterculture aspects, but by integrating their parents' overworrying they take on countercounterculture (sic) views as well. The only thing i can think of is that the 2 worldviews combine into a NEW kindof worldview that somehow integrates aspects of both radical cultural tollerance from the punk scene, and statusquo unquestioning (educational?) conservatism.
lol, "educational conservatism". my new nice way of saying "Nieve".
wow. could the sXe scene actually be punk conservatism? Has the punk scene become so old and settled that it actually fosters it's own inner conservatism movement? hehe it's a funny visual, but it could be true.
visual: Old granny punks (yes i am aware of the linguistic irony in this term) with walking frames, mohawks and spike collars. Yelling out judgementally at the young kids running by.... but what would they yell?
http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22conservative+punk%22
holy crap 114,000 results! and a wikipedea article! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Punk
maybe the cultural images that i grew up with of an ideologically liberal/anarchist punk scene was doped by some kinda liberal-media-bias?
hmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Edge#Origins
The hardcore punk scene has been viewed by those unfamiliar with it as a mass consensus of angry kids-uniting with the purpose of creating fast and rebellious music in the hopes of reshaping a society that they perceive as bad. Although hardcore bands share some of the same themes, their lyrics, politics and attitudes can range from right to far left, from extremes to moderation, from hostility to hospitality.
*reads wiki for another few hours... pastes this from wordpad into an LJ entry... then goes to bed*
need to understand the general worldview, to substitute for the worldview i DIDN'T get while growing up. My previous worldview was one of religious based nievity and pessimism about world affairs, enforced via the cult family unit.
i'm an outsider in all generations.
unnaturally protected from Generation X, and the MTV Generation (subgeneration of Generation Y).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Generation
As i grew, age anti-climacticly emerged me from my religious shell. I emerged to be greeted by Generation Y, their mass cynicism is very refreshing. But i'm angry that although i felt the process of growing up during GenX - i was hidden from any meaning in it. I saw it all going on from behind the fence, told that it was bad but unable to understand why, and embarased to let my "outsider" status show. This fence that needlessly kept me from my Gen-X brethren, i am now very angry about. You can't just protect a child from being a child - it was attempted to indoctrinate me with negativity towards my brethren. This was a truly self-important endevour on the part of the indoctrinators, as they were oblivious to the power of children to absorb subtleties from their environment and emerge (if lucky) with a kinder gentler worldview than the extremist one they were drilled with by indoctrinators. This NATURALLY DEVELOPED (ie: via natural childhood observance) worldview conflicted with the attempted indoctrinated worldview. This conflict essentially being the seed, the earlier me, the conflict could have been resolved in many possible ways leading to a lot of possabilitys that i could have been. After various otherwise unexplainable neurosis (depression etc) i finally ended up deciding to discard the indoctinated worldview. Unfortunately the heavyhanded indoctrination process sheilded me from many aspects of GenX, so i'm playing catchup.
So, i was oblivious to the good that came with Gen X, the meaning of it, until i emerged from my shell - only to find i missed out, Gen X was over, leaving me feeling like i have more in common with Gen Y's worldview. So i feel like i can compete better with Gen Y, but i yearn for that link i missed with Gen X. Gen X kinda scares me actually, as i have not learnt the lessons they have (and Gen Y may have also picked up on in their early years), i feel like exposure to social ridicule as a result is an ever present possability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang_Generation
there is also a defined Gen XY.
i think volunteering, or my more recently thought: Internship, is highly appropriate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X
Gen X's attitude towards technology can be summarized by noticing that most were either born after the 1969 moon landing, or were very young at that time. Therefore, to Gen Xers, "anything is possible", as long as you're willing to throw enough money at it. Thus for Gen X, success is much less a matter of if one can accomplish something; and more a matter of should one accomplish something: a "so what" factor. Gen Y may be all about choosing one's priorities (and then maintaining the will and discipline to follow through with them) rather than dreaming of the Possible (especially false utopias, per Nineteen Eighty-Four and other literature
in Gen X required school reading). Gen X knows that the United States landed on the moon, from reading the history books; but they didn't live through it and feel the national pride: it's a "so what".
this is interesting, may help me relate better with older patriotic generations. i feel that they are sitting on their laurels. so to them, the emerging counterculure worldview is an attack on their ego-retirement.
how does the Straight Edge culture get along with the various pro-Drug cultures? To me, as someone with pro-drug views, sXe seems inherently negative and judgemental. But sXe does seem to have a vibe of tollerance inbuilt - they seem to not like drugs, "but it's ok if you like them". Perhaps many sXers, being ideaologically nieve to drugs (like i was), don't understand that a big part of the anti-drug movement is based around HATE and intolerance. Pro-drug people know their history, and know that official anti-drug campaigns and all of their associated propeganda are inherently based in hate and intollerance when you trace it back. Since sXers will often quote official anti-drug propeganda to justify/explain their worldview, this may make them prone to give off a confusing image to others. I imagine it is similar to the word "nigger"/"nigga".
The word "Nigga" (purgurative: "nigger") is cool by today's standards. It conveys an image of, well... "cool". The term "cool" actually has it's roots firmly placed in black american culture and values. So "nigga" has kinda become the new "cool".
To sXers, their avoidance of drugs gives them a link to their overcareful parents (helicopter parents). I imagine being an sXe child will get you a lot of respect from your parents, which will inturn give you more freedom as they treat you as more mature than "other kids". You will also see yourself as more mature, a perceived quality which like all ego-centric qualitys can be used as a source of social exclusiveism/elitism and other judgemental behaviour. The sXers respect from their parents would setup an interesting parent/child relationship, as they are a part of the punk scene and therefore share a lot of their counterculture aspects, but by integrating their parents' overworrying they take on countercounterculture (sic) views as well. The only thing i can think of is that the 2 worldviews combine into a NEW kindof worldview that somehow integrates aspects of both radical cultural tollerance from the punk scene, and statusquo unquestioning (educational?) conservatism.
lol, "educational conservatism". my new nice way of saying "Nieve".
wow. could the sXe scene actually be punk conservatism? Has the punk scene become so old and settled that it actually fosters it's own inner conservatism movement? hehe it's a funny visual, but it could be true.
visual: Old granny punks (yes i am aware of the linguistic irony in this term) with walking frames, mohawks and spike collars. Yelling out judgementally at the young kids running by.... but what would they yell?
http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22conservative+punk%22
holy crap 114,000 results! and a wikipedea article! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Punk
maybe the cultural images that i grew up with of an ideologically liberal/anarchist punk scene was doped by some kinda liberal-media-bias?
hmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Edge#Origins
The hardcore punk scene has been viewed by those unfamiliar with it as a mass consensus of angry kids-uniting with the purpose of creating fast and rebellious music in the hopes of reshaping a society that they perceive as bad. Although hardcore bands share some of the same themes, their lyrics, politics and attitudes can range from right to far left, from extremes to moderation, from hostility to hospitality.
*reads wiki for another few hours... pastes this from wordpad into an LJ entry... then goes to bed*