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rodlox May 23 2013, 05:26:54 UTC
> We know that he can be dezombified e.g. the tow truck guy.
*nods* and the serum can't be given for the first three stages...but is there a "its too late" point in Stage Four, or does it not matter when Nick gets it?

>Eric is a total psychopath.
based on provided evidence, yes.

but given that Grimms, as shown, are superweapons - and Nick is a SuperGrimm - wouldn't it be even more (evil? effective?) if they got Nick to work for Eric?

(whether a semi-cure from the zombification makes him ultra-loyal, or Nick's convinced that the Cracher-Mortel was working with Renard, or some other way)

>Does zombification affect Grimms differently?
that would be interesting. I mean, zombification affected wesen and humans the same way (that i could see), so if it affects/effects Grimms differently... (might the cure for Grimms be different than for humans?)

hm.

>I'd love to see Nick and Juliet's wedding in season 3!
yes!
oooh, maybe have the wedding in the final ep of season 3, and have a dragon (or something) slowly approaching the festivities, whistling to itself, but the screen fades to black after the "you are man and wife" but well before the dragon(?) arrives.

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virgo_79 May 23 2013, 16:07:20 UTC
I truly hope that this cliffhanger isn't leading us to a situation where Nick is brainwashed and in Eric's employ. One crappy amnesia story was already one more than I cared to see on this show; I don't want yet another season of misery and memory loss with Nick standing in for Juliette this time.

I tend to think Eric's plan is to get Nick, revive him, and torture him into giving up the key. That's already been established as his M.O., and there was the mini-history lesson from Renard to Nick on the Royals torturing one of Nick's ancestors for his/her key. That just struck me as potential foreshadowing, particularly given how personally Nick seemed to take it. I think it;s just a question of how far the plan progresses before it's ended and Nick is rescued. Will they actually get him out of the country and do him any further harm, or is that plane going to be prevented from ever leaving the ground, and the crisis point will deal with an enthralled and violent Grimm?

And may I add hell yes to the wedding vote. :)

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rodlox May 23 2013, 17:54:54 UTC
speaking of standing in, if s2 could be called The Season Of Renard (most plots involving him to one degree or another)...then I suspect that s3 will be The Season Of Rosalee.

Nick doesn't have to be brainwashed to be in Eric's employ, neccessarily...
a. Nick knows that Renard has been behind a lot of the plots involving Nick (particularly in season 1)
b. Eric can plausibly claim to have not been behind the attacks on Nick (and could tell Nick "those were hits by rival Families")

>and the crisis point will deal with an enthralled and violent Grimm?
that would be quite interesting, how they handle it, particularly given Nick's proven lethality when he wants someone dead.
though I'm sorry - how is enthrallment different from amnesia? (in terms of how people relate to him, at least)

EDIT: ah, partial amnesia/partial enthrallment - that could work.

>And may I add hell yes to the wedding vote. :)
yes please.

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virgo_79 May 23 2013, 19:20:36 UTC
When I say enthralled, I'm talking the rabid stage of the zombi process, as opposed to a treated, non-crazed, and functional mindset in which he's being lied to/brainwashed, and doesn't know any better.

Basically, I'm opposed to any long-term story arc that involves Nick not remembering his life and loved ones. Pass. I don't want to fall into a poison, collapse, forget, repeat cycle on here. :)

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