Dr Who 6x12 - Closing Time

Sep 25, 2011 16:38

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cjwatson September 25 2011, 19:27:12 UTC
We initially thought that Amy and Rory's house in tIA was the one the Doctor settled them in at the end of tGC, but as you say that can't be so; I assume it was just a house they got for themselves in the normal course of events after getting married. Presumably after their wedding night in the TARDIS the Doctor dropped them back home for a while.

We don't know how much of the Doctor's personal time elapses from the end of tGC to the start of Closing Time. Based on his behaviour it doesn't seem as though it can have been hundreds of years, but he did say he was on a "farewell tour" so it's quite plausible that he spent a while doing that business of shouting at Amy and Rory from history. It's an interesting idea that he might have got the personal time of his death wrong, but that would defer resolution of the whole thing until at least next series, so it seems unlikely ...

I have a prediction about the last episode, but I just posted its checksum to my own journal. I'll post it next week if I was right or at least not too embarrassingly wrong. :-)

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rochvelleth September 26 2011, 10:18:52 UTC
Presumably after their wedding night in the TARDIS the Doctor dropped them back home for a while.

I think I was just a bit hesitant to make this assumption, because it feels as though the hole between the end of the last series / Christmas special and the beginning of this series is intentional. At the end of the last series the Doctor received a phone call mentioning an Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express (which they seemed to be off to attend to) - it might not be a coincidence that the promotional stuff for the end of the current series features a pyramid in the background. And if there's something missing, then who knows how much time is missing? Hmm.

I wonder whether Amy and Rory who visited the shop in Closing Time were pre-Melody or post-Melody Amy and Rory... If they're the same Amy and Rory who get the envelope that the Doctor sends, then they're pre-Melody, but when did Amy have time to become a poster girl? Or if they're post-Melody, then are they living on Earth in a house at roughly the same time that their pre-Melody selves are?

They've also dropped a bit of a hint that there's something wrong with Rory, when the Doctor noticed him talking about his time in the TARDIS in the past tense in TGC. But I still don't know exactly what that means :)

We don't know how much of the Doctor's personal time elapses from the end of tGC to the start of Closing Time

That's true. I suppose it's quite likely that the Doctor's shouting at Amy and Rory from history takes place in that space. I look forward to next week, when hopefully I'll be able to stop thinking about all this and get the answer... Good luck with your prediction :)

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cjwatson September 26 2011, 14:30:08 UTC
At the time, I read the Doctor's response to Rory's comment as simply being an observation that Rory had already admitted defeat in the face of the hotel-from-hell setup. Perhaps you're right and it wasn't meant to be so prosaic.

I agree that there seems to be something odd (or odder than usual) about Amy and Rory's timeline. I disregarded the Orient-Express bit because plot gaps between series aren't that uncommon, and there didn't seem to be anything wrong at the time of "The Christmas Carol" (which was after the Orient-Express line), but it's entirely possible I'm wrong.

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rochvelleth September 26 2011, 14:44:13 UTC
I must say, I'm looking forward to finding out whether any of my suspicions and assumptions are even vaguely correct... It will be nice not having to think about them any more! I've lost any sense of what might or might not be significant in the Moffat era :)

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emperor September 26 2011, 18:32:45 UTC
I thought that was Rory coming to the view that he'd spent enough time with the Doctor, at least subconsciously.

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