Garrow's Law

Nov 23, 2009 12:51

Has anyone been watching Garrow's Law? For those who don't know, this was a four-part BBC period drama about an 18th C lawyer who made massive breathroughs in the legal system concerning representation for defendents. So, it's both interesting and informative, which is always something I like - and I'm very happy to put it in the 'excellent 18th C ( Read more... )

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dcwash November 23 2009, 16:57:16 UTC
I watched "Party Animals" so I could get a glimpse of Joe Armstrong in his one episode, and so I could check out the new Doctor Who. Both were good, but Andrew Buchan was the one I would up falling in love with. I'll have to check this out. Thanks!

(By the way, I wrote my master's thesis on 18th-century Virginia, pre- and post-Revolution. So, yes, I am VERY into this era!)

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rochvelleth November 23 2009, 17:07:32 UTC
Is Andrew Buchan in Party Animals? I must confess I've only watched the bits with Joe Armstrong in that episode of Party Animals... maybe I should watch the whole thing :)

By the way, I wrote my master's thesis on 18th-century Virginia, pre- and post-Revolution. So, yes, I am VERY into this era!

Oh yay! It's great to see all this enthusiasm for the 18th C, which was such an important time in recent history IMO. By the way, I was just recommending The Patriot to Jaycat above - have you seen it? What did you think?

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dcwash November 23 2009, 17:25:15 UTC
Party Animals is very good, and, though it's set in London and deals with British politics, it rings very true to what I've learned about political operatives while living Washington: they're both idealistic AND highly competitive, and you never know which side is going to take prominence from minute to minute. Hell, THEY don't even know! It's not just about politics, though. It's about young-ish people trying to find their way in the world, and families, and love, and all of that.

I haven't seen all of The Patriot, let's put it that way. I'm such a pill about historical movies that I'm no fun to be with, so I tend to skip them if it's something I know much about. My brother had it on one time when I was over there, and I caught the scene (out of context) where the happy black folks and happy slave-owning white folks all joined together for a pot-luck on the beach and thought, ".....no. Sorry. Not watching." Plus I tend to want to throw things at Mel Gibson under the best of circumstances ( ... )

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rochvelleth November 23 2009, 18:29:07 UTC
Oh WOW! What an amazing family link. You must be very proud!

Party Animals sounds great, I think I should catch up with it. And re The Patriot, well... I won't say that it doesn't have its off moments (like the one you tuned in for, as well as the implausible romance bit), but many of the performances are solid, and I'm a sucker for epic historical stuff. And who cares about historical inaccuracy? :)

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dcwash November 23 2009, 18:53:45 UTC

Oh WOW! What an amazing family link. You must be very proud!
Well, I was until I started reading up on him. It seems he took money from the French--a LOT of money for the time--to set up his own, independent country/state after the Revolution. And he was probably involved in a notorious, huge land fraud. And he was a nasty guerrilla fighter. And that he was kind of on both sides of the Revolution at the same time.
http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-668

But I got a kick when my kinda snobby uncle got his panties in a knot because he couldn't join the Society of the Cincinnati (http://www.societyofthecincinnati.org/) because old Elijah was only a general in the militia, not in the Continental Army.

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roh_wyn November 23 2009, 18:09:02 UTC
(By the way, I wrote my master's thesis on 18th-century Virginia, pre- and post-Revolution. So, yes, I am VERY into this era!)

I had no idea! That's so cool. What specific aspect of colonial/revolutionary Virginia did you research?

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dcwash November 23 2009, 18:35:39 UTC
Well, if you want specific....

The title of the thesis was, "Less than Gentlemen: Political, Social, and Economic Mobility in Fauquier County, Virginia, 1749-1800." Check it out from the University of Virginia's Alderman Library and you get 46 pages of what it says on the tin. I used county court records (the "county court" was the same thing as the "board of aldermen," or "burgesses," or those such things), wills, and estate assessments to determine how (or if) families moved up and down the social ladder before vs. after the Revolution. I picked those dates because the county was officially founded in 1749 and any earlier records were burned in the Civil War, and 1800 because...well, you gotta end these things SOMEtime.

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roh_wyn November 23 2009, 18:49:00 UTC
Heh. Gotcha.

That sounds fascinating. I remember reading an article a while back that suggested that upward mobility was much more likely in rural areas than in urban ones, and the relative lack of mobility among social classes in urban areas only really became obvious with increased immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe in the last 1800s and early 1900s.

At any rate, your thesis would be more interesting reading than mine, I'm sure, rofl.

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dcwash November 23 2009, 19:03:01 UTC
My grandmother was rather disappointed, though she tried to hide it. I picked Fauquier County for a number of reasons, not the least being that I've had family there since before it was a county. She read this and sighed and said, "Well, I guess they couldn't all be cavaliers!" Which apparently was what he was taught in Virginia schools in the '20s--that early Virginia was populated by rich second sons of English nobility. 'Taint true ( ... )

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roh_wyn November 23 2009, 19:07:01 UTC
I think it's terrific you've retained so much enthusiasm for your research! It's never too late to get that PhD, if you still want it!

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