Prochoice doesn't mean proabortion. No one wakes up thinking, oh, I think I want to get an abortion today. Prochoice is not wanting the government to force women to have a baby. If the gov't was making all women abort, wouldn't you be prohoice in that you agree it should be the woman's choice to keep it? It's the same idea.
Now after the age of viability is just nasty and cruel unless the mother's health is at serious risk. The woman has been pregnant at least 22 wks and that's enough time to make a decision.
No, the unborn can't speak for themselves, but if they could, I doubt they'd want to be born to parents that will resent them, not care for them properly, shake them to death, etc. Preemies can't speak either and I bet 100% of them would not want some of the so called 'heroic measures' taken to keep them alive. We do some pretty inhumane things to 'save' lives in the NICU and the kids don't turn out okay if they live or they are in a LOT of pain while they are alive (if they die in the hospital).
It's like the Terry Schiavo case - she couldn't say what she wanted but who would want to live like she did?
That said, I am a Christian and I've had an abortion. I don't go broadcasting it because I don't want people to judge me (then again, why would I want to associate with people who are that judgemental?...anyway..) I don't regret it one bit. That kid would NOT have gotten all life had to offer.. plus I am on meds that aren't really good for pregnancy....AND my blood pressure went sky high early in the pregancy so it would not have made it to term anyway. Had those factors not been in place, I still would have done it w/o regret.
Anyway, I know you posted a warning for no prochoicers to read this, but it seems most prolifers have a huge misconception on what prochoice actually means..and it is NOT proabortion.
i agree about Terry Schiavo. i think those machines were keeping her alive by man's power, not by God's. another way to look at it would be to see it as God calling her home, but the machines prevented her from passing.
i don't judge people that have had abortions. my best friend had one, and although i tried to talk her out of it, i would have held her hand and been by her side as she had it performed if she asked me to. people are so concerened about the unborn life that they don't stop to consider the pain and confusion that someone is going through that would lead them to make such a choice. instead of grace and forgiveness, they find hatred and hypocrisy from the very same people that profess to live by the way of love.
having said that though, i am against abortion and i think that God is too. have you read psalm 139? 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
if someone feels they are responsible enough to have sex and take the risk of possibly becoming pregnant, then they should be responsible enough to take care of the child that God entrusted them with. if that means finding a better home for them by way of adoption, then they should. so many people that want to have kids, can't. i too was faced with the same decision. i thought that a child would ruin my life. and in truth, she did. she turned my world upside down. but if it wasn't for her, for the Lord sending her to me, i hate to think where i might have ended up. she saved my life by bringing me into a relationship with Jesus. these past 3 years have been the best i've ever had and i attribute it all God's gift of that life. even moses was adopted and look what happened because of it. God looks after his children, one way or another. just like joseph's brothers probably did not want to be born to a father that did not even consider them sons, having to live in the shadow of his favorite one, they were born into the situation that God planned for them. how do you think they felt about their life? they sold joseph into slavery and it wasn't until 30 years of humbling imprisonment in a foreign land that he was raised up to the status that ended up saving his family and people. You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. -Genesis 50:20 (emphasis mine)
or what about when Jesus healed the blind man in John chapter 9? As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. (emphasis mine)
you can't look at life from the limited mortal perspective. God's ways are higher than our own. He knows what He's doing. life does not happen without his permission. and though there are people that taint the world with evil, God has a plan and purpose for everything. nobody gets all that life has to offer... and some people get more than it should. but a life with Christ is meant to free you from the entrapment of fear and doubt. it's called faith, and trust for Him to work all things out for good (Romans 8:28).
just like the fears and worries of people kept Terry Schiavo in a place that God did not intend for her to be anymore, perhaps the same can be said about people that don't allow a life to enter into a place that God intended them to be.
Now after the age of viability is just nasty and cruel unless the mother's health is at serious risk. The woman has been pregnant at least 22 wks and that's enough time to make a decision.
No, the unborn can't speak for themselves, but if they could, I doubt they'd want to be born to parents that will resent them, not care for them properly, shake them to death, etc. Preemies can't speak either and I bet 100% of them would not want some of the so called 'heroic measures' taken to keep them alive. We do some pretty inhumane things to 'save' lives in the NICU and the kids don't turn out okay if they live or they are in a LOT of pain while they are alive (if they die in the hospital).
It's like the Terry Schiavo case - she couldn't say what she wanted but who would want to live like she did?
That said, I am a Christian and I've had an abortion. I don't go broadcasting it because I don't want people to judge me (then again, why would I want to associate with people who are that judgemental?...anyway..) I don't regret it one bit. That kid would NOT have gotten all life had to offer.. plus I am on meds that aren't really good for pregnancy....AND my blood pressure went sky high early in the pregancy so it would not have made it to term anyway. Had those factors not been in place, I still would have done it w/o regret.
Anyway, I know you posted a warning for no prochoicers to read this, but it seems most prolifers have a huge misconception on what prochoice actually means..and it is NOT proabortion.
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i don't judge people that have had abortions. my best friend had one, and although i tried to talk her out of it, i would have held her hand and been by her side as she had it performed if she asked me to. people are so concerened about the unborn life that they don't stop to consider the pain and confusion that someone is going through that would lead them to make such a choice. instead of grace and forgiveness, they find hatred and hypocrisy from the very same people that profess to live by the way of love.
having said that though, i am against abortion and i think that God is too. have you read psalm 139?
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
if someone feels they are responsible enough to have sex and take the risk of possibly becoming pregnant, then they should be responsible enough to take care of the child that God entrusted them with. if that means finding a better home for them by way of adoption, then they should. so many people that want to have kids, can't.
i too was faced with the same decision. i thought that a child would ruin my life. and in truth, she did. she turned my world upside down. but if it wasn't for her, for the Lord sending her to me, i hate to think where i might have ended up. she saved my life by bringing me into a relationship with Jesus. these past 3 years have been the best i've ever had and i attribute it all God's gift of that life.
even moses was adopted and look what happened because of it. God looks after his children, one way or another.
just like joseph's brothers probably did not want to be born to a father that did not even consider them sons, having to live in the shadow of his favorite one, they were born into the situation that God planned for them. how do you think they felt about their life? they sold joseph into slavery and it wasn't until 30 years of humbling imprisonment in a foreign land that he was raised up to the status that ended up saving his family and people.
You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. -Genesis 50:20 (emphasis mine)
or what about when Jesus healed the blind man in John chapter 9?
As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. (emphasis mine)
you can't look at life from the limited mortal perspective. God's ways are higher than our own. He knows what He's doing. life does not happen without his permission. and though there are people that taint the world with evil, God has a plan and purpose for everything.
nobody gets all that life has to offer... and some people get more than it should. but a life with Christ is meant to free you from the entrapment of fear and doubt. it's called faith, and trust for Him to work all things out for good (Romans 8:28).
just like the fears and worries of people kept Terry Schiavo in a place that God did not intend for her to be anymore, perhaps the same can be said about people that don't allow a life to enter into a place that God intended them to be.
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