I think those are written by the same people who hate Gwen because they see her as some kind of threat to Jack/Ianto. I'm reminded of why I only read very few fanfic authors.
I go back and forth on Gwen. Certainly she's supposed to be our viewpoint character, but as I'm neither that dumpy, earnest or clueless, it doesn't really work for me. She does at least approximate a functional human being though (interpersonal relationship cowardice aside), which the show could certainly use.
Jack -- bisexual, fucking Ianto and probably a lot of other peopel as well. Lots of relationships with both genders (more men than women though) in his backstory.
Ianto -- bisexual, fucking Jack. One significant relationship with a woman in his backstory.
Owen -- mostly into women, but makes out with a guy early on in Season 1.
Gwen -- partnered to a man, makes out with a woman early on in Season 1.
Toshiko -- has a crush on Owen, also has a relationship with a woman early on in season 1.
You failed to mention all the subtext (weird or otherwise) going on b/t various groupings of the five of them. Basically, it could be argued that all five of them have some sort of WTF going on w/ea of the other four. And no, I'm not just referring to the weird Jack/Gwen stuff (disclaimer: I love Gwen, enjoy Jack/Ianto for what it IS and not what fen try to make it out to be, and absolutely HATE Jack/Gwen if only b/c she is the only one out of the five of them w/a shred of normalacy about her and she doesn't need his baggage).
Oh and ITA about the subversion of Jack/Ianto by certain sections of the fandom. You're completely right that they're both the most fucked up people imaginable. Realistically, Jack is a prime candidate for walking STD status and Ianto is . . . well Ianto has issues. Besides, Ianto even stated "we dabble", which to me implies a casual, no strings attached relationship which revolves primarily around sex.
Since I've not watched season 2 yet, but know that Ianto basically flirted (or more) his way into Torchwood via Jack. Do we have any information on whether he and Jack had it out about the Lisa thing during Ianto's suspenion (or later, for that matter, I guess). As I am getting something of a fic bunny myself and it's not the "oh, Jack is worried about Ianto and goes to check on him" variety, it's the "Jack calms down enough to realize he's been had and feels the needs to go over there and ask What the Fuck?" variety.
I'm woefully behind on season 2, myself. Five eps in and nothing of that sort has come up, yet. Which is a shame, as I want it to. Still, there's seven more eps to go...
Okay, I need to find this out, because this is sort of forming in my head (I'm realizing I totally know how to write Jack's voice when he's pissed off, but probably don't have a handle on the characters otherwise -- perhaps because they don't have a handle on themselves).
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I think those are written by the same people who hate Gwen because they see her as some kind of threat to Jack/Ianto. I'm reminded of why I only read very few fanfic authors.
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Ianto -- bisexual, fucking Jack. One significant relationship with a woman in his backstory.
Owen -- mostly into women, but makes out with a guy early on in Season 1.
Gwen -- partnered to a man, makes out with a woman early on in Season 1.
Toshiko -- has a crush on Owen, also has a relationship with a woman early on in season 1.
Queerest show ever.
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Oh and ITA about the subversion of Jack/Ianto by certain sections of the fandom. You're completely right that they're both the most fucked up people imaginable. Realistically, Jack is a prime candidate for walking STD status and Ianto is . . . well Ianto has issues. Besides, Ianto even stated "we dabble", which to me implies a casual, no strings attached relationship which revolves primarily around sex.
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More men than women? I didn't realize this. Did this come up at some point in the series, or is just your perception? Just curious.
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Thank you.
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Since I've not watched season 2 yet, but know that Ianto basically flirted (or more) his way into Torchwood via Jack. Do we have any information on whether he and Jack had it out about the Lisa thing during Ianto's suspenion (or later, for that matter, I guess). As I am getting something of a fic bunny myself and it's not the "oh, Jack is worried about Ianto and goes to check on him" variety, it's the "Jack calms down enough to realize he's been had and feels the needs to go over there and ask What the Fuck?" variety.
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