I'd just like to throw my 2 cents in here. In the spirit of full disclosure, I am a supporter of Col. Andrew Horne. There are many reasons for this, but I thought I'd share a few with you guys. Firstly, and this is my favorite reason, he is not really a politician. He's just a regular guy who has been personally effected by the Bush administration's policies, and Northup's rubber-stamping of those failed policies. I think this is especially important when considering "why" a person would run for office. When a group of people start an unnecessary war, and then send American soldiers off to fight, and in a lot of cases, die...it is up to the citizenry to actually do something about it. I think of this as putting your life/money/reputation where your mouth is. I can't really say that for the others in the race, except for Jimmy Moore. John Yarmuth, while a fine person, is essentially a tax and spend liberal. While I personally agree that additional revenue needs to be raised to take care of Americans and do things like...provide healthcare for each tax payer...there are ways to do it without hitting the middle class in the stomach. This is exactly what Yarmuth has stated. And Horne has taken exception to this, which is a good thing for Kentucky. While reading the Yarmuth website today I noticed that he is attempting to use the old line "they're taking my words out of context". I wish that were true, but it's simply not. If anyone would like to see the video of Yarmuths exact statement, in his own words, and in his own context, please check out this link: http://BlackWednesday.org
This is my personal site and I have the full, 2mn video of his answer. This honestly shocked me. Especially from a well-to-do person who has never had to fear losing his home's power, a hungry night, or poor employment prospects. Horne, on the other hand, has been a middle-class, regular guy who loves his country for his entire life. While this isn't a big deal to some, it means the world to me.
So in short, Col. Andrew Horne gets my vote because he is a compassionate human being, who is not afraid to do his fair share. Northup and Bush both voted to send him to a war that should have never initiated, stealing him away from his family, all while his wife was fighting her own personal battle: Cancer.
These are real people, who have lived much the same way we all have. I am tired of politicians who say "the right thing" and promise the moon to get elected. I prefer a candidate who admits he might not have all the answers, but is willing to do his part to find the best path. This is not politics as usual, and THIS is why I believe Col. Horne is the best person to represent Kentucky's 3rd District. He thinks for himself, and would vote in accordance with his own personal, moral, and professional values. Not a panderer, not a rubber-stamp.
I may seem kind of harsh in this rebuttle, but know that this isnt an attack on you or Col. Horne, just what I believe to be the best way to beat anne in the fall.
First of all, your site is a good allegory for what is wrong with the horne campaign in general, it doesn't work. Sure, Col. Horne may have been affected by the iraq war, in a very real way, but we DONT KNOW where he stands on the issue of iraq. is he against it? we cant even be sure of this. all he said is that we were sold a 'bill of goods,' a term with which im not exactly familiar. at any rate, a lot of people believe that the war was unjustified but still support "staying the course." does andrew believe this, or does he want to bring the troops home? we dont have a straight answer. he says that we MAY be able to bring the troops home within a year, meaning he doesn't have a firm position. Yarmuth, on the other hand, fully supports the Murtha resolution which would bring the troops back within 18 months.
You are right when you say that Horne is a normal guy, not a politician. He doesn't know jack about politics, and is letting a bunch of people who know only what they read on blogs run his campaign. I know and love a lot of the Kerry Kentucky people, but visibility is nearly nothing in a campaign. door to door distriubtion of home made lit is not a good campaign strategy. Putting 4 or 5 yardsigns in one yard and several in vacant lots are a waste of yardsigns. In short, andrew may be a fine guy, but he knows jack about campaigning/politics.
Your site didn't work, but I watched the debate three times, and I know exactly what john said. I've also spoken to john personally about what he said and what he meant to say. What he said was (paraphrase)"the solution to the health care problem is simple, if you just raise property taxes from one percent to two percent we can pay for health care for all." You may glean from that what you want, but what john wanted to get across was that there were several VERY SIMPLE solutions to the health care crisis in this country, and that was only one of them. he does not necessarily support that one.
As to your ideology, i think its bunk. Raising the taxes on only the rich is not something that resonates with the electorate (a la albert gore and john kerry), and people don't typically buy it. The right way to do it is to ask people to pay for their fair share, which WILL resonate with the public. Think of it like this, one person says "we will tax the rich and pay for everyones health care" as opposed to someone saying "we will tax everybody, ask everybody to pay their fair share, and solve everyone's health crisis." you tell me which resonates with people better.
John isn't a politician either. He's a guy who cares. Sure, hes wealthy, but we shouldn't hold that against anybody. I'm sad to hear that about Col. Horne's wife, I will keep her in my prayers. To say that John wouldn't think for himself, vote in accordance with his own personal, moral, and professional values and be a rubber stand or a panderer would be a false statement. He will be just as independent as andrew would be in the house. Honestly though, its hard to be independent in the House, and I doubt either of the four candidates (if they won) would vote under 95% with the Democratic party. Thats just the way that body works.
I stand by my statement that it's a mistake to vote for Andrew Horne. John Yarmuth is our best shot to beat Anne Northup because he has the ability to raise money and take specific stands on legislation. I respect your opinion, but think you are dangerously wrong.
Thanks for taking time to read this Chuck, I hope you will see the light, but I doubt someone so eloquently supportive of andrew will ever change their vote. Hope you get that site back up.
Ha. You're on crack for thinking John can beat Rep. Northup. It's three weeks out from the election and his staff still hasn't done anything. I may be a Republican, but you should have paid attention. Colonel Horne raised all kinds of money in just a month. John Yarmuth spent his own money. Horne had wild national support and all the labor support Northup will now garner.
I'll chalk it up to you being 19.
You've also embarrassed yourself for causing controversy. Should tell Dan Borsch not to lie about knowing what you're doing, buddy.
I'd just like to throw my 2 cents in here. In the spirit of full disclosure, I am a supporter of Col. Andrew Horne.
There are many reasons for this, but I thought I'd share a few with you guys.
Firstly, and this is my favorite reason, he is not really a politician. He's just a regular guy who has been personally effected by the Bush administration's policies, and Northup's rubber-stamping of those failed policies. I think this is especially important when considering "why" a person would run for office. When a group of people start an unnecessary war, and then send American soldiers off to fight, and in a lot of cases, die...it is up to the citizenry to actually do something about it. I think of this as putting your life/money/reputation where your mouth is. I can't really say that for the others in the race, except for Jimmy Moore.
John Yarmuth, while a fine person, is essentially a tax and spend liberal. While I personally agree that additional revenue needs to be raised to take care of Americans and do things like...provide healthcare for each tax payer...there are ways to do it without hitting the middle class in the stomach. This is exactly what Yarmuth has stated. And Horne has taken exception to this, which is a good thing for Kentucky.
While reading the Yarmuth website today I noticed that he is attempting to use the old line "they're taking my words out of context". I wish that were true, but it's simply not. If anyone would like to see the video of Yarmuths exact statement, in his own words, and in his own context, please check out this link: http://BlackWednesday.org
This is my personal site and I have the full, 2mn video of his answer. This honestly shocked me. Especially from a well-to-do person who has never had to fear losing his home's power, a hungry night, or poor employment prospects. Horne, on the other hand, has been a middle-class, regular guy who loves his country for his entire life. While this isn't a big deal to some, it means the world to me.
So in short, Col. Andrew Horne gets my vote because he is a compassionate human being, who is not afraid to do his fair share. Northup and Bush both voted to send him to a war that should have never initiated, stealing him away from his family, all while his wife was fighting her own personal battle: Cancer.
These are real people, who have lived much the same way we all have. I am tired of politicians who say "the right thing" and promise the moon to get elected. I prefer a candidate who admits he might not have all the answers, but is willing to do his part to find the best path. This is not politics as usual, and THIS is why I believe Col. Horne is the best person to represent Kentucky's 3rd District.
He thinks for himself, and would vote in accordance with his own personal, moral, and professional values. Not a panderer, not a rubber-stamp.
Thanks for taking the time to hear me out.
-Chuck
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I may seem kind of harsh in this rebuttle, but know that this isnt an attack on you or Col. Horne, just what I believe to be the best way to beat anne in the fall.
First of all, your site is a good allegory for what is wrong with the horne campaign in general, it doesn't work. Sure, Col. Horne may have been affected by the iraq war, in a very real way, but we DONT KNOW where he stands on the issue of iraq. is he against it? we cant even be sure of this. all he said is that we were sold a 'bill of goods,' a term with which im not exactly familiar. at any rate, a lot of people believe that the war was unjustified but still support "staying the course." does andrew believe this, or does he want to bring the troops home? we dont have a straight answer. he says that we MAY be able to bring the troops home within a year, meaning he doesn't have a firm position. Yarmuth, on the other hand, fully supports the Murtha resolution which would bring the troops back within 18 months.
You are right when you say that Horne is a normal guy, not a politician. He doesn't know jack about politics, and is letting a bunch of people who know only what they read on blogs run his campaign. I know and love a lot of the Kerry Kentucky people, but visibility is nearly nothing in a campaign. door to door distriubtion of home made lit is not a good campaign strategy. Putting 4 or 5 yardsigns in one yard and several in vacant lots are a waste of yardsigns. In short, andrew may be a fine guy, but he knows jack about campaigning/politics.
Your site didn't work, but I watched the debate three times, and I know exactly what john said. I've also spoken to john personally about what he said and what he meant to say. What he said was (paraphrase)"the solution to the health care problem is simple, if you just raise property taxes from one percent to two percent we can pay for health care for all." You may glean from that what you want, but what john wanted to get across was that there were several VERY SIMPLE solutions to the health care crisis in this country, and that was only one of them. he does not necessarily support that one.
As to your ideology, i think its bunk. Raising the taxes on only the rich is not something that resonates with the electorate (a la albert gore and john kerry), and people don't typically buy it. The right way to do it is to ask people to pay for their fair share, which WILL resonate with the public. Think of it like this, one person says "we will tax the rich and pay for everyones health care" as opposed to someone saying "we will tax everybody, ask everybody to pay their fair share, and solve everyone's health crisis." you tell me which resonates with people better.
John isn't a politician either. He's a guy who cares. Sure, hes wealthy, but we shouldn't hold that against anybody. I'm sad to hear that about Col. Horne's wife, I will keep her in my prayers. To say that John wouldn't think for himself, vote in accordance with his own personal, moral, and professional values and be a rubber stand or a panderer would be a false statement. He will be just as independent as andrew would be in the house. Honestly though, its hard to be independent in the House, and I doubt either of the four candidates (if they won) would vote under 95% with the Democratic party. Thats just the way that body works.
I stand by my statement that it's a mistake to vote for Andrew Horne. John Yarmuth is our best shot to beat Anne Northup because he has the ability to raise money and take specific stands on legislation. I respect your opinion, but think you are dangerously wrong.
Thanks for taking time to read this Chuck, I hope you will see the light, but I doubt someone so eloquently supportive of andrew will ever change their vote. Hope you get that site back up.
-Robert
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I'll chalk it up to you being 19.
You've also embarrassed yourself for causing controversy. Should tell Dan Borsch not to lie about knowing what you're doing, buddy.
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