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May 13, 2006 01:15

Ok, i am sorry for being lame, but i just need to do what needs to be done.


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revolution_boy May 13 2006, 09:54:18 UTC
murtha resolution?

murtha is practically an anagram of yarmuth. is it his idea?

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rlk86 May 13 2006, 18:21:52 UTC
i didnt really realize that. no, jack murtha is a hawkish democrat from ohio who surprized most everyone when he advocated for a pullout from iraq. his ideas have been gaining some steam in our lower house, which is what my guy, yarmuth, is running for. yarmuth supports murthas resolution.

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revolution_boy May 13 2006, 23:33:11 UTC
nah i meant what are the nuances of the murtha resolution?

also, this guy is going to be running against that woman you hate (i almost came back to change the verb here to something a little less violent after your last denunciation of republicans but left it), northop or someone yeh? i thought she was a senator. obviously not. what makes it so worthwhile being so completely opposed to a member of the HoR?

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rlk86 May 15 2006, 00:05:21 UTC
The nuances are really dense and really difficult, and would be hard to write down in an lj response, and i dont fully understand them, but they are available at house.gov/murtha and clicking on "jack's stance on iraq." Northup is the scourge of louisville, and she is a member of the House. The House of Representatives is much different from the House of Commons, because people in the US do not generally give their blessing to their party, but rather to the candidate in our single rep. district. This is mainly a product of our directly electing our president. I have often wondered about how GB works, and if people actually know/care who their representative is, or if on the ballots, the ballot only has a party name on it ( ... )

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revolution_boy May 15 2006, 17:08:52 UTC
some might call that a bit of a vendetta you have there, she is after all but one in a 440 or so member house. it's like me getting wound up about conservative councillors on rossendale council. =P ( ... )

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rlk86 May 16 2006, 03:37:31 UTC
Eh, me campaigning against Anne is a little bit like somebody in your country campaigning for Labo(u)r or the Tories or the Lib Dems. Here, the person takes presidence over the party. Thats why i have the "vendetta" against anne. Shes the only one i can campaign against ( ... )

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revolution_boy May 16 2006, 16:59:41 UTC
about electronic voting i meant in the house. it also said that votes can be prolonged for ages whilst the party whips (do you have people designated as party whips?) induce more people to vote their way. whipping here is usually done before votes and they usually take about 15 minutes as everyone leaves the chamber and assembles in the relevant corridor to sign their name in the books.

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rlk86 May 17 2006, 03:33:16 UTC
yes, in the house it is all done by electronics. the senate is typically done by role call.

the votes are not supposed to be left open. that is totally against the rules, but the rules are often broken by those who make them. and yes, we have lots of "whips" in the british sense, but only one "whip" in the american sense. our party structure is such that loyalty is not a given, so the party leadership of the party in power will often leave a vote open past its time in order to get the votes they need.

our party structure in the house is such: most powerful member is the Speaker of the House, which is the highest ranking member of the party in power. we then have the Majority Leader and Minority Leader, which are more or less the floor leaders in the parties. Under these two are the Majority and Minority "whip" (whip is a title, not a job discription - all the leadership acts as 'whips' in the british sense), which are the lowest of the upper leadership in our lower house.

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