I just got done watching X-Men: The Last Stand (hey, it was on a Showtime I couldn't help myself) and I think I might have realized what's wrong with both X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3
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Well, the problem with AlMiles is that they just don't think anything through, and the Lois thing is a prime example. Also, they hate the fans - they knew about Chlois (Chloe ends up being Lois) way back in S1, and it was the perfect way out, and they could have done it so well, but they were like FUCK U GUYZ, LANA IZ AWESUM. I hate them.
Also, you're lucky that your Marvel movies at least listened to the fans too much instead of a certain director being all, "Ignore all seventy years of canon for this character except two mediocre movies from the late seventies, never talk to anyone who's actually read the comics, and then totally lift half the script from the source material and the other half from the Bible? AWESOME!" Like, I love SR, but NOT because of Bryan Singer AT ALL. Actually, my love for SR is about 78% Brandon Routh, 19% the kid who played Jason, and 3% Jason Marsden.
PS: I was wrong about the flying floating being in the second episode. It was the very beginning of the third (Hothead, the first truly awesomely bad episode of the show's history). The first two are kind of a two-parter a little, so I got confused, but I'm back now. All right. Sorry.
Yeah, they basically want to write their own Superman universe, in which Lana is his true love, not Lois, and introduce Chloe (who I love but regardless) who is basically Lois and THEN introduce Lois and make a dumb tramp.
Bryan Singer is a douche. All he wants to do is the shit HE wants to do, regardless of if it's right or not. Granted he fucked Superman over WAY worse than he did X-Men, but he screwed some of their characters up really bad. Like Professor X. HE IS A DICK. And made Iceman all emo and shit. And Rogue important. Which in X-Men, where's there's lots of characters, those little things weren't nearly as glaring as they were in Superman. The plot of Superman Returns...well, it's a plot. Lex, Parker Posey's character, Brandon Routh and Super!Bastard made that movie for me.
Haha, I'll be sure to edit. I really want Smallville DVDs now and I have no idea why.
Iceman is played by an Ashmore, and therefore, I can't hate him. No matter how much Singer rapes his character.
Get Season 1! It's the gayest and the only one worth owning, because the show is so shiny and new and wasn't all about Lana yet and they still kind of knew what they were doing (except for the flying thing). Although 3 and 5 are pretty good for crack content. Lois is introduced in S4, the worst season ever, so if you don't want to see Lois, it's just the glory days (S1-3) for you. *fangirls*
I can't hate him either, which is kind of frustrating. I did like he sort of showed his true colors by cheating on Rogue with Kitty (the scene where they actual makeout was deleted because Brett Ratner is retarded) in the The Last Stand. And when he turned into real Iceman was just too awesome for me to handle and I still managed to flail over it tonight.
See, I pretty much want to own all of them. I'm a completist when it comes to sets (except for the, The Simpsons). I definitely want Season 1 since I've seen so little of it. And 3 and 5 are regarded as 'the best', so I'll have to have those. And 4. Oh you know I have to have 4. Worst season ever AND Jensen Ackles? Yes please. haha seriously, I love him to absolute pieces, but I kind of love making fun of him just as much. And I don't hate Lois, really. I hate that they made her such a ho and so damn stupid though. She's way more tolerable than Lana.
Well, if you're getting all them (*bemused*), I can tell you that I also have S2, and there are some great episodes and then also some real duds. But I assume you haven't seen much of that season, plus it's the one with Emmanuelle Vaughier, so there you go.
I do hate Lois, and I don't know that I would were she some other character. It's a combination of me loathing the character rape and just straight up hating Erica Durance and her fake-ass boobies.
lol I've seriously been waiting for a Best Buy TV on DVD sale so I can buy them. They have them every once in awhile, the sets for like $15 or something.
Which season has the episode where Lana gets trampled by that horse? Because I still haven't seen it. :(
LMAO Erica Durance is such a HO. God, she pisses me off. I read about some big ass drama she had with Howard Stern awhile ago and it was very lol-worthy. If she wasn't supposed to be Lois Lane she wouldn't be as bad probably, but god, they raped her character so bad. Why is that? Why do Superman-film/TV creators seem to HATE Lois so much and LOVE ruining her character? So weird.
Lana gets trampled in Shattered, my favorite episode ever! That's right near the middle of S3. The episode after it (Asylum) introduces Ian Somerhalder's character, and also has the second appearances of Jonathan Taylor Thomas (S1 or 2, Dichotic), Shawn Ashmore (S1E12, Leech), and Jesse Metcalfe (S2, Extinction). Also, in Asylum, watch for Lana's hilarious fall midway through the episode (she just trips right out of frame, it's great).
Lois has been treated a little better than Clark over the years (if you like Teri Hatcher, which Joel and I disagreed about when we had this discussion the other day), but not by much. And no on-screen Lois has at all emulated comics Lois, to me. It's like the people who do these adaptations have no respect at all for the source material. But, really, SV!Lois is particularly bad, not least in the fact that she looks about 10 years older than Clark, even though Welling is a year older. At least they kept her as an army brat, which is the only major thing they changed on L&C. L&C's Sam Lane was a brilliant surgeon who made cyborgs and also wacky inventions, I don't know. I just remember an episode where Lois and Clark snuck onto a military base and Lois saluted with the wrong hand and I was really confused for like ten minutes, until I remembered the change.
Dammit, I need to do some kind of Superman movie/TV show and fix all this shit, because it really does piss me off. Why do Bryan Singer and Deborah Joy Levine - neither of whom read comics - get to do it?
Yeah, no on-screen!Lois is like comics!Lois which is so disappointing. The mediocre 70s movies are probably the best try, or Teri Hatcher. Superman Returns just made her a bitch and gave her a crappy actress that knew nothing of Lois Lane in the comics. And like you said, SV!Lois is just a calamity, ahaha.
It is really odd to me that no Superman adaptation has been even close to canon. Like, ever. What the hell? More people know Superman than any other superhero, why does he get the shaft?
I just realized, I have those RMVB files of S3! I'm going to try and upload Shattered and Asylum for you tonight. They'll be in your inbox. :)
The problem with Superman is that everyone knows the image and shit, but no one bothers to intimately know the character before adapting him, so the mass audiences only know what they've been told about Superman by the people who didn't know him in the first place. Like, the kryptonite deus ex machina came from the radio show in the 40s, the "Look up in the sky!" and "Faster than a speeding bullet" were from the opening of the 50s TV show, the music that everyone thinks of is from the '78 movie (as is Marlon Brando's weird pronunciation of 'Krypton'), etc. etc. And then people just latched onto Chris Reeve (who is awesome, but looks NOTHING like Clark) and Gene Hackman as Some Character That Is Definitely Not Lex, and thus begins the endless circle of "living up to" the first movie that already has its foot way off of canon's doorstep. And THEN some asshole like Singer comes along and just copies that verbatim (seriously, there were a few "shout-outs"/"callbacks"/whatever where he just LIFTS WHOLE LINES) and casts Reeve's clone, thus ruining yet another generation who had thus far assumed that Superman is just like Clark on Smallville. GRRRRR. It's so hard being a Clark fangirl sometimes.
This is clearly the reason that everyone ON EARTH should read Birthright.
Also, you're lucky that your Marvel movies at least listened to the fans too much instead of a certain director being all, "Ignore all seventy years of canon for this character except two mediocre movies from the late seventies, never talk to anyone who's actually read the comics, and then totally lift half the script from the source material and the other half from the Bible? AWESOME!" Like, I love SR, but NOT because of Bryan Singer AT ALL. Actually, my love for SR is about 78% Brandon Routh, 19% the kid who played Jason, and 3% Jason Marsden.
PS: I was wrong about the flying floating being in the second episode. It was the very beginning of the third (Hothead, the first truly awesomely bad episode of the show's history). The first two are kind of a two-parter a little, so I got confused, but I'm back now. All right. Sorry.
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Bryan Singer is a douche. All he wants to do is the shit HE wants to do, regardless of if it's right or not. Granted he fucked Superman over WAY worse than he did X-Men, but he screwed some of their characters up really bad. Like Professor X. HE IS A DICK. And made Iceman all emo and shit. And Rogue important. Which in X-Men, where's there's lots of characters, those little things weren't nearly as glaring as they were in Superman.
The plot of Superman Returns...well, it's a plot. Lex, Parker Posey's character, Brandon Routh and Super!Bastard made that movie for me.
Haha, I'll be sure to edit. I really want Smallville DVDs now and I have no idea why.
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Get Season 1! It's the gayest and the only one worth owning, because the show is so shiny and new and wasn't all about Lana yet and they still kind of knew what they were doing (except for the flying thing). Although 3 and 5 are pretty good for crack content. Lois is introduced in S4, the worst season ever, so if you don't want to see Lois, it's just the glory days (S1-3) for you. *fangirls*
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See, I pretty much want to own all of them. I'm a completist when it comes to sets (except for the, The Simpsons). I definitely want Season 1 since I've seen so little of it. And 3 and 5 are regarded as 'the best', so I'll have to have those. And 4. Oh you know I have to have 4. Worst season ever AND Jensen Ackles? Yes please. haha seriously, I love him to absolute pieces, but I kind of love making fun of him just as much.
And I don't hate Lois, really. I hate that they made her such a ho and so damn stupid though. She's way more tolerable than Lana.
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I do hate Lois, and I don't know that I would were she some other character. It's a combination of me loathing the character rape and just straight up hating Erica Durance and her fake-ass boobies.
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Which season has the episode where Lana gets trampled by that horse? Because I still haven't seen it. :(
LMAO Erica Durance is such a HO. God, she pisses me off. I read about some big ass drama she had with Howard Stern awhile ago and it was very lol-worthy. If she wasn't supposed to be Lois Lane she wouldn't be as bad probably, but god, they raped her character so bad. Why is that? Why do Superman-film/TV creators seem to HATE Lois so much and LOVE ruining her character? So weird.
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Lois has been treated a little better than Clark over the years (if you like Teri Hatcher, which Joel and I disagreed about when we had this discussion the other day), but not by much. And no on-screen Lois has at all emulated comics Lois, to me. It's like the people who do these adaptations have no respect at all for the source material. But, really, SV!Lois is particularly bad, not least in the fact that she looks about 10 years older than Clark, even though Welling is a year older. At least they kept her as an army brat, which is the only major thing they changed on L&C. L&C's Sam Lane was a brilliant surgeon who made cyborgs and also wacky inventions, I don't know. I just remember an episode where Lois and Clark snuck onto a military base and Lois saluted with the wrong hand and I was really confused for like ten minutes, until I remembered the change.
Dammit, I need to do some kind of Superman movie/TV show and fix all this shit, because it really does piss me off. Why do Bryan Singer and Deborah Joy Levine - neither of whom read comics - get to do it?
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Yeah, no on-screen!Lois is like comics!Lois which is so disappointing. The mediocre 70s movies are probably the best try, or Teri Hatcher. Superman Returns just made her a bitch and gave her a crappy actress that knew nothing of Lois Lane in the comics. And like you said, SV!Lois is just a calamity, ahaha.
It is really odd to me that no Superman adaptation has been even close to canon. Like, ever. What the hell? More people know Superman than any other superhero, why does he get the shaft?
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The problem with Superman is that everyone knows the image and shit, but no one bothers to intimately know the character before adapting him, so the mass audiences only know what they've been told about Superman by the people who didn't know him in the first place. Like, the kryptonite deus ex machina came from the radio show in the 40s, the "Look up in the sky!" and "Faster than a speeding bullet" were from the opening of the 50s TV show, the music that everyone thinks of is from the '78 movie (as is Marlon Brando's weird pronunciation of 'Krypton'), etc. etc. And then people just latched onto Chris Reeve (who is awesome, but looks NOTHING like Clark) and Gene Hackman as Some Character That Is Definitely Not Lex, and thus begins the endless circle of "living up to" the first movie that already has its foot way off of canon's doorstep. And THEN some asshole like Singer comes along and just copies that verbatim (seriously, there were a few "shout-outs"/"callbacks"/whatever where he just LIFTS WHOLE LINES) and casts Reeve's clone, thus ruining yet another generation who had thus far assumed that Superman is just like Clark on Smallville. GRRRRR. It's so hard being a Clark fangirl sometimes.
This is clearly the reason that everyone ON EARTH should read Birthright.
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