We Think The Women Should Be Allowed To Fight.

May 12, 2009 08:04

A while ago, misscam posted an entry about the hard time female characters get in fandom and invited everyone to talk about female characters they loved in the comments. I thought that this was a lovely idea, and so I am completely stealing it. Because I do tend to talk about male characters far more than I talk about female ones, and that's not right. ( Read more... )

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misskass May 12 2009, 07:36:24 UTC
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- WHY DO YOU ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS.

Obviously I love Donna, because she's the first character who's not been head over heels for the Doctor, but she's got such an amazingly close relationshop with him anyway. And that she's showing girls everywhere that even temps can be special, that's the main thing I adore about her - the way she thinks she's nothing but it turns out that she's everything.

And and and, um... I love Lyra! From His Dark Materials. 'Cause she's really only little, and yet she does all these amazing and courageous things. Maybe due to being stubborn, maybe due to her desire to rebel against people of authority, but still she saves the goddamn world and rescues people from hell and still, at the end, has the strength to say goodbye to the first boy she loved because all of the windows have to close. geafeahfksdh I cried at the end of those books. Now I want to read them again. Damn ( ... )

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rionaleonhart May 12 2009, 07:55:33 UTC
Obviously I love Donna, because she's the first character who's not been head over heels for the Doctor, but she's got such an amazingly close relationshop with him anyway.

I forgot to mention that! That's another thing I really love about her. DONNA. YOU ARE AMAZING.

Oh, I need to reread His Dark Materials. I loved those books so much when I was younger.

TAKING YUNA IN INAPPROPRIATE DIRECTIONS ON THE SPHERE GRID IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE THINGS TO DO IN FINAL FANTASY X. I love watching her run up, give the enemy a gentle tap with her staff, and do one million damage. And she is just so brave. Also adorable.

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misskass May 12 2009, 08:18:01 UTC
RELATIONSHOP. How did I manage to misspell that. xD

I should really start the game again and take all the characters in the wrong directions. Yuna and Lulu will go down the physical strength path, Auron and Tidus will become black mages with terrible attacks, and Wakka and Rikku will be white mages. Or I could just teach everyone Holy, that could work too. Unless the enemies are invulnerable to Holy, then I'm screwed.

... are there enemies that aren't affected by Holy?

OH I FORGOT: I love Jessie from Pokemon. 'Cause she's really cool for a constant enemy who loses at everything. She's just awesome and persistent and I love in Pokemon 2000 when she and James and Meowth decide to be the good guys for once. Also in Pokemon 3, but 2000 is my favourite film.

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rionaleonhart May 12 2009, 15:21:22 UTC
Now I am just imagining Donna and the Doctor running a shop that sells romantic novels.

JESSIE IS AMAZING. As is everything about Pokémon, eeee.

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vzg May 12 2009, 08:21:24 UTC
YES LYRA. But not so much movie Lyra.

I feel like I can finally admit that the movie sort of sucked. SIGH. But book!Lyra is awesomecakes!

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misskass May 12 2009, 08:22:45 UTC
I enjoyed the movie, but probably moreso because I wanted to enjoy the movie rather than an actual enjoyment of the movie. Book!Lyra is definitely better, even though I do hope they continue to make the movies. Because more people need to find out about the books and go off and read them. =D

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vzg May 12 2009, 08:24:56 UTC
I did enjoy it a bit at the time, and it wasn't as if every little part of it sucked, but I do want a do-over. :[

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rionaleonhart May 12 2009, 08:31:01 UTC
I just can't forgive them for leaving out the end. What on Earth, writers? (Also, their Lyra did not fit my mental image, and the MASSIVE BATTLE BETWEEN EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING was just unnecessary and dull.)

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emmarrrrr May 12 2009, 11:00:54 UTC
I think they left out the end because otherwise, The Subtle Knife will confuse the hell out of everyone.

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hold_onhope May 12 2009, 13:16:00 UTC
Somehow the Lyra in my head while reading the books had dark hair... I have no idea if she's supposed to be blond or not, but it threw me off in the movie. The whole movie just makes me sad, because it could have been so amazing, but they had to aim it towards children and then it was... not amazing. Sad.

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vzg May 12 2009, 19:36:08 UTC
They didn't want the ending to be too depressing.

No, for real.

Which I can get, in a marketing sense. Regardless of the actual target audience, there were bound to be lost of parents bringing their kids to see it, and that's a pretty profitable market. Kids won't come back for a sequel if it ends like that. (In general. Obviously some would, although some that would would not be allowed to be their parents, surely.) It's the same reason they trimmed down references to the Church and called in the magistrate instead.

Of course, understanding why they did it doesn't make me approve. At all. :/

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captlebubbles May 13 2009, 02:55:06 UTC
They ended the first LotR movie with Boromir dead and that didn't stop it from becoming a box-office smash. Of course, they also had Arwen usurp Glorfindel's role and made Gimli not nearly as awesome as he should have been, so I don't know if I should be defending them.

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vzg May 13 2009, 05:54:22 UTC
Yeah, but I feel it was really more pivotal to the plot for His Dark Materials... after all, it shows her that her supposed heroes are not, in fact, heroes, and opens a pathway to another world, which ends up being really damned important in the next two stories.

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dancesontrains May 12 2009, 12:41:55 UTC
I don't think it did well enough for them to justify making another film.

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