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abelincoln1864 October 29 2009, 02:50:51 UTC
Wow, I bet you win the prize for biggest answer. :) I do agree with you though.

I know people who are so accustomed to pills for everything, their life missions have become "finding the right pills that work for me." That's the extent of their self development. And I keep hearing that phrase elsewhere as well. I suspect it's a marketing jingle, like 'chemical imbalance' or 'balanced breakfast.' It's deeply ingrained in culture now, and it kind of sucks.

I feel like some of my friends are being had, and I don't really know what to say to them without insulting them.

off my soapbox now. :)

Personally, I do weird things to get the pendulum moving, rituals, selfwork, etc, and I call the tension between each end of its swing 'vitality.'

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riding_wildfire October 29 2009, 03:26:06 UTC
Yeah I feel like I'm insulting some of my best friends, too.

On the other hand, I have been a pretty fucked up person for much of my own life, and I have been on anti-depressants briefly, which did not go well for me. My personal experience was that all it took to get myself into the "normal" range was pulling my head of my introspective ass and becoming conscious of what was going on around me and learning to control myself within all the unpredictable variables of my surroundings.

I think I frequently win the prize for longest response. :) To a writer, is that not the point of breaking through a writer's block? To write? To exhaust every possible angle of my own personal take on a subject in the hope that there will be some quality or at least usuable prose that comes out of it?

I'm all psyched for nanwrimo.

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riding_wildfire October 29 2009, 03:33:21 UTC
Also, I like the word "vitality" to describe that "tension between each end of it's swing." A nugget, for sure.

And they are being had. The whole world of physchology and psychiatry thrive on people who think they have something wrong with them. And they don't want them to figure out that they've been "cured" all along.

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abelincoln1864 October 29 2009, 05:41:09 UTC
Well, ever since the 70's when the industry was taken over by pharma, it is. Now most offices are just front-end distribution centers for the meds industry.

I get most of my personal psychology from Jung, who I love. He was one of those who would take just about any modern 'disorder' and explain how it was just a call from deep within to motivate you into pulling yourself together into wholeness and individuation.

I have dealt with the labels that these benevolent folks tried to apply to me as a child. Now any pain and sorrow I experience is 'pain and sorrow,' period.

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riding_wildfire October 29 2009, 18:49:28 UTC
Fuck Freud; Jung kicks ass.

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abelincoln1864 October 29 2009, 21:13:43 UTC
Yep. Night and day.

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