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Jul 14, 2011 16:51

Copied from my plurk where I realized very unfortunate things about my canon.


世界の破壊者 [rp|toku] And now while I'm plurkspamming, I am going to thoughtbarf about something that has been bugging me, relevant to this name.
世界の破壊者 Namely, Fury Form.
世界の破壊者 ... god, I need to punch Toei.
世界の破壊者 that was kinda funny the first time, but why did they have to redo the joke with diend
世界の破壊者 if an OOO movie gives him a GekiJoBan combo, I'm dumping Toei forever.
世界の破壊者 ... anyway no on-topic i swear
Sectumsempra ....they redid the stupid movie form joke with Diend?
世界の破壊者 His Complete Form's FAR is called Gekijoban.
Sectumsempra Oh, that.
Sectumsempra Eh.
世界の破壊者 Yeah. Dumb as shit, like the rest of Diend's complete form.
世界の破壊者 ... except summoning all the movie-only Riders is a pretty cool gimmick, I guess, but still.
世界の破壊者 ANYWAY. So. Fury Form is stated to be "Decade who has accepted his destiny as the destroyer of worlds".
世界の破壊者 which means... I'm not actually certain there *is* a difference between Fury Form and normal Decade.
世界の破壊者 Rather, Fury Form sounds to me more like what Decade becomes when Tsukasa stops fucking around and trying to save everything.
世界の破壊者 Fury Form isn't anything special or unique, it's what Decade is *supposed* to be, but Tsukasa is restraining its power.
世界の破壊者 Maybe not willingly! Since he did have amnesia. It's possible he just didn't remember how to do everything he did.
世界の破壊者 Plus it... doesn't follow the naming patterns of other Riders.
世界の破壊者 or his own other forms, for that matter.
世界の破壊者 But anyway, looking at what Fury Form *does*
世界の破壊者 First: It uses G3's Kerberos, and Kaixa's Side Basshar.
世界の破壊者 ... god, that is such a stupid name.
世界の破壊者 Side Basher, Toei. That is what you meant. What the fuck even is a Basshar.
世界の破壊者 anyway.
世界の破壊者 So it seems like it might be Fury Form's gimmick is that it can use the powers of secondary Riders, too
世界の破壊者 Though it can't actually transform into them
世界の破壊者 But he also uses Clock Up as Decade
世界の破壊者 ... then again, maybe it was just Gattack's Clock Up, but
世界の破壊者 He keeps up with Kabuto that way, and at least in Decade canon, Kabuto's Clock Up is faster than Gattack's.
世界の破壊者 ... then again, Faiz Accel can keep up with Gattack and TheBee, so maybe I'm looking too much into this.
Sectumsempra I think the gimmick was supposed to be that he could use attack rides without transforming.
世界の破壊者 And could use secondary Rider's powers
世界の破壊者 ... man, I wish he had used Ongekibo Rekka as Fury Form
世界の破壊者 so badass
世界の破壊者 anyway
世界の破壊者 I'd kind of like to play with these powers, but since Toei is a gigantic fuck, we don't actually know if he kept these powers afterward
世界の破壊者 Though
世界の破壊者 He did seem to keep some sort of generic *massive* power-up afterwards
世界の破壊者 see: able to make all Heisei Riders their ultimate forms at once, and FFR them all at once
世界の破壊者 But it's the secondary Riders' cards that bothers and intrigues me most
世界の破壊者 When you consider the flashback (AKA Natsumi's dream)
世界の破壊者 It can be assumed that Tsukasa got all those cards by... killing all the secondary Riders first.
世界の破壊者 ... and then he didn't give those cards to natsumi to bring them back. only the primary Riders. WHOOPS.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ . . .
世界の破壊者 hope you guys didn't need those sidekicks!
❝ 土の侍 ❞ I spend all my time telling people you're -not- a murderer please don't make me a liar.
世界の破壊者 ... look, it's their own fault for not having the foresight to be the title character.
世界の破壊者 Anyway, right. on-topic.
世界の破壊者 So if Tsukasa got all those Attack Ride cards from killing them, which is what makes the most sense
世界の破壊者 He probably has all the Kamen Ride cards for those Riders too.
世界の破壊者 Otherwise, they *couldn't* be revived anyway, with how the power works
世界の破壊者 (at least, if I understood TV-Asahi's site right)
世界の破壊者 ... admittedly, Tsukasa is a gigantic douche who would never deign to use a mere secondary rider's kamen ride card
世界の破壊者 But
世界の破壊者 He also had Skull's card, and Skull is a secondary Rider, so we know he *can* get those cards
世界の破壊者 ... where am I even going with this anymore.
世界の破壊者 tl;dr I think movie wars has given tsukasa kamen ride cards for the secondary riders
❝ 土の侍 ❞ ... hey! I'm a secondary Rider.
世界の破壊者 but I also think he doesn't need them? he can probably do what fury form did.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ SAFE FROM FFR. FUCK YES.
世界の破壊者 Safe from FFR, maybe, but
世界の破壊者 This Plurk's logic means I can get a card for your sword-thumbing move.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ But do you -really- want to let me know in any capacity you stole my move?
世界の破壊者 ... meh, I stole Jan's already, this can't be worse
世界の破壊者 .... oh
世界の破壊者 that
世界の破壊者 that actually reminds me of something else I wanted to ramble about!
世界の破壊者 ... god, why doesn't Pinky have a plurk, she'd love this
世界の破壊者 So if Gokaiger can be taken as canon for all super sentai, they're all in one world.
世界の破壊者 Which meant that, just like Shinkenger, getting moves from all of Super Sentai is fair game.
世界の破壊者 Which means, potentially, Tsukasa could get a card for Gokai Change.
世界の破壊者 i'm not actually remotely certain how that would work, though.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ if you break the ride booker again i'm not fixing it.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ and that is all i have to say about that.
世界の破壊者 ... knowing my luck, I'd only get the cards for pink rangers anyway
❝ 土の侍 ❞ . . .
❝ 土の侍 ❞ I'd laugh.
世界の破壊者 oh well
世界の破壊者 ... i wonder if the gokaiger suit-genderflip effect would happen if Tsukasa used a card of a female secondary rider.
世界の破壊者 ... admittedly, there's no reason to ever use them
世界の破壊者 since Femme is a weaker Knight, Amaki is absolutely identical to Ibuki, and Kivaara would straight-up shank Tsukasa (again)
世界の破壊者 ... and there's no more girl Riders, huh
世界の破壊者 thanks toei
❝ 土の侍 ❞ Most of us die.
世界の破壊者 yyyyyyep
❝ 土の侍 ❞ I kind of. ... beat them to the punch on that one, a little.
世界の破壊者 ... man i don't even know where I'm going with this plurk anymore.
世界の破壊者 i started out intending to ramble about Fury Form and what it does
世界の破壊者 and now I'm discussing if Tsukasa's belt can genderflip costumes for him.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ I really just ...
❝ 土の侍 ❞ I already end up adopting all of the sentai people -anyway-.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ Why do you need to collect them if I already do ...
世界の破壊者 ... we're going to have to start keeping them in pokeballs.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ You will do no such thing to my tigerboy or my teacher.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ ... or the moe, because I think we know how that will end for us all.
世界の破壊者 ... touche.
世界の破壊者 ... though now i have another subject to ramble on
世界の破壊者 namely Complete vs normal Decade
世界の破壊者 and its relation to Sentai
世界の破壊者 since the Rekka Daizantou card can only be used by Complete Form
世界の破壊者 ... god, I fucking hate Complete Form
世界の破壊者 But that aside
❝ 土の侍 ❞ ... if you secretly have a GekiBazooka card ...
世界の破壊者 It is supposed to be the "King of Rider Worlds"
世界の破壊者 which... is an odd specification.
世界の破壊者 King of *Rider* worlds.
世界の破壊者 Whereas Decade was destroying *every* world, not just Rider ones.
世界の破壊者 Though considering its gimmick
世界の破壊者 It's actually way less versatile than Decade's normal form
世界の破壊者 since the summoned Riders just mimic him.
世界の破壊者 On the other hand, it is also apparently way more powerful.
世界の破壊者 so I guess the point is to trade versatility for sheer firepower and armor.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ It's a tank.
世界の破壊者 well, there's one more thing that bugs me.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ It doesn't turn on a dime but it'll certainly fuck you up.
世界の破壊者 One really, *really* worrying thing.
世界の破壊者 TV-Asahi's supplemental info states that Complete Form has another name.
世界の破壊者 Specifically, that it is also 'Decade's funeral shroud'.
❝ 土の侍 ❞ . . .
世界の破壊者 And when you consider just where it came from...
世界の破壊者 I would really, *really* like to know more about Complete Form.
世界の破壊者 Fuck you, Toshiki Inoue.
世界の破壊者 Please never write again.
Zampano these last two lines sum up my sentiment towards the man very succinctly
世界の破壊者 he is like the japanese joe quesada.
世界の破壊者 he wrote four episodes of decade and it never recovered.
Zampano Yeah. I mean, the show was pretty well fucked the moment Aikawa bailed, and even if Yonemura's a hack, he's not an Inoue-tier hack
Zampano if Yonemura had written those episodes it might have gone SLIGHTLY better
Zampano the Inoue ones, I mean
世界の破壊者 I am just uuuugh
世界の破壊者 Decade's power-up! Stated to be his *funeral shroud*! Clearly important!
世界の破壊者 never even remotely explained.
世界の破壊者 write diend's backstory!
世界の破壊者 it is the blade movie except decade shoehorned in.
世界の破壊者 okay, bitching about Inoue aside though
世界の破壊者 (I will make a plurk solely devoted to hating him later)
世界の破壊者 .... though.
世界の破壊者 Come to think of it.
世界の破壊者 If Complete Form is the King of Rider Worlds, this actually explains all of Nega World in one go.
世界の破壊者 Nega World is the world of the Dark Riders.
世界の破壊者 The Dark Riders are seriously, *seriously* outnumbered and outgunned.
世界の破壊者 But Decade is the former leader of DaiShocker, and the King of Rider Worlds.
世界の破壊者 If Otoya was trying to crown Tsukasa as King of the Rider Worlds to get in good with him
世界の破壊者 ... this means Otoya was trying to start the Rider War.
世界の破壊者 So the Dark Riders wouldn't get annihilated.
Zampano ...oh *fuck*
世界の破壊者 ... the scary part is
世界の破壊者 out of anyone in the Heisei Rider era, Otoya probably had the best chances of succeeding in that.
世界の破壊者 This is the guy who on sheer force of will used Dark Kiva three times and then hung around a while longer anyway
世界の破壊者 When once was supposed to kill you instantly
世界の破壊者 ... and this Otoya uses Dark Kiva twice on-screen
世界の破壊者 is quite probably human
世界の破壊者 and gives no fucks and shows no signs of discomfort
世界の破壊者 ................ and he survived the fight with tsukasa.
世界の破壊者 ... well, *fuck*.
Zampano ...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
世界の破壊者 ... god, toei, get on this.
世界の破壊者 except i am one of the like. five people in the world who really likes decade.
世界の破壊者 ... man i meant to ramble on about showa riders and decade's powers too but
世界の破壊者 now i'm kind of too unsettled by all of this.
世界の破壊者 ... oh, as a note
世界の破壊者 ... wait
世界の破壊者 I might have translated this all wrong
世界の破壊者 It's not Complete Form entirely
世界の破壊者 Rather, it's the chestpiece with all the Rider cards that is called his funeral shroud.
世界の破壊者 ... which is weird as *shit*.
世界の破壊者 ... also of note, the Signal Pointer (thingy on Decade's forehead) changes color in Fury Form, right?
世界の破壊者 that Signal Pointer is what lets him transform into other Riders
世界の破壊者 basically the Decadriver reads a card and sends a signal to the Signal Pointer
世界の破壊者 which then lets Tsukasa transform or use moves
世界の破壊者 ... man, how did I miss all this when I translated this the first time
世界の破壊者 Also, the worlds changing him into whatever suit and skills he needs is part of Decade's power set.
世界の破壊者 ... apparently it's actually part of Decade's big watermelon eyes.
世界の破壊者 ... and apparently the bands around his wrists and ankles let him fly?
世界の破壊者 and his bike can fly too?
世界の破壊者 ... god, I really want to watch Decade again now.
世界の破壊者 I might be the minority, but I really do think
世界の破壊者 (with the exception of what was written by Inoue)
世界の破壊者 It's still a great celebration of Kamen Rider.
世界の破壊者 It's not perfect, but it's a fun ride.
世界の破壊者 ... I'm gonna go watch the end of Hibiki world again.
Dere May Die ... just read this entire thing and there are stars in my eyes
Dere May Die also I demand an invite to the We Hate Inoue Club
世界の破壊者 We need to do something with our tiny remaining Decade cast, Tot :-(
❝ 土の侍 ❞ We do.
Dere May Die 8( yes
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