Church and State

[rev_hp_meyers]

There seems to be some controversy over the interjection of a policy promoted by the Roman Catholic Council of Bishops in House “healthcare” bill.  The policy would restrict the use of Federal and Insurance moneys for abortions.

Bill Press, one of the progressive radio personalities I listen to every morning, seems to think that this is a

Comments

[crimson_musing]

I think it's silly that many think "separation of church and state" is some kind of rule . . . Especially in THIS country, where you cannot be elected president without mentioning God in your speeches.

I don't know what to think about the Roman Catholic Council of Bishops' power play not to fund abortions.

I think it's definitely a problem that our government pays for formula, for free, for anyone who doesn't have sufficient income . . . instead of promoting breastfeeding for those who need that connection, health, and freedom (after all breast milk is free and always available).

That kind of government "help," in my opinion, undermines motherhood and family. There are so few cases of ACTUAL breastfeeding problems which cannot be solved with the correct support and lactation advice, and the World Health Organization advocates breastfeeding directly from the mother first, the mother's pumped breast milk second, donated breast milk 3rd, and then formula, if none of the other routes are available. In our bottle feeding culture, women say, "Ouch, it hurts!" and instead of someone helping them latch the baby correctly, someone pats them on the back and sends them home with formula. Would abortions funded by the government in the universal health care system do the same? A woman who becomes pregnant is told that it's HER choice, she can do "the responsible thing," patted on the back and pushed toward the abortion clinic?

What people don't know is that there are huge physical and mental repercussions for abortions. Every failed pregnancy takes a huge toll on a woman's future health, increasing the likelihood of several diseases. The other alternative that is touted as "Christian" and moral is to give the child up for adoption . . . which biologically simulates child-loss at full term, likewise an unpleasant physical and mental outcome. Many biological moms who give up their children have symptoms of PTSD, and they certainly NEVER forget.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/public_funding.html

And abortions have always been a push and pull factor in the Medicaid scene, only having been freely allowed for low income populations for a very short period of time after Roe vs. Wade.

Anyways, *shrug* . . . women's reproductive rights are an interesting subject to me.

[jimbow8]

Would abortions funded by the government in the universal health care system do the same? A woman who becomes pregnant is told that it's HER choice, she can do "the responsible thing," patted on the back and pushed toward the abortion clinic?

In a "free market" society, a woman will be pushed toward whichever option generates the highest profit (at least for the person doing the advising), which is sadly probably toward the abortion clinic.

(I am pro-choice, but extremely in favor of reducing the situations in which abortions are .... required/desired/etc. Also, I'm a man and not about to tell a woman what to do with her body.)