Oh FFS
I don't usually go to Facebook, and posts like the following are why:
The Boy Scouts are now just the Scouts?! Really?! I’m so confused. We have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. I am sympathetic to a lot of things in this sinful world. I don’t understand these liberals with their idiotic opinions, on labeling things by gender. If it’s equal, I.e Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts then leave it alone. I know from experience that the Girl Scouts empowers girls to be powerful independent women. Why would I want to integrate my daughters who identify as girls with boys who need different teachings in life? I feel there is a lack of father daughter/mother/son going on in todays world. My dad taught me everything the boy scouts would have taught me and I have precious memories from it. Parents today would rather pay someone else to teach their children life lessons and that is why we are in the world we are today
This is from a cousin that I grew up with.
Like, where do I even begin with this mess of contradictions? "We have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts" but "I don’t understand these liberals with their idiotic opinions, on labeling things by gender." Uh, what? In this case, aren't the liberals removing gender labels? Then there is the passive argument that both Boy and Girl Scouts are equal, when that could not be more hilariously wrong - one is known for Eagle Scouts and the other for selling cookies. At the bare minimum, girls were never allowed to become Eagle Scouts, simply because of their gender.
The most baffling shift is in the latter half, when she derides parents "would rather pay someone else to teach their children life lessons and that is why we are in the world we are today." So... basically any parent who sends their kids to either Boy or Girl Scouts? In which case, why would it matter in the first place that girls can join the Boy Scouts?
And fucking Christ, that complete lack of empathy from someone who supposedly is a Christian. "My dad taught me everything the boy scouts would have taught me." Good for you. Now what about all the other girls out there who don't have dads? Or abusive dads? Or dads who don't know everything there is to know about wilderness survival? Or the dads who understand their own limitations, and want their daughters to have the opportunity to pursue their passions and experience new things without being placed in a gendered box right from the start?
I've spent over and hour typing and retyping a response to that Facebook post. But what's the point? Would it make any difference at all? This isn't shouting into the void - once loosed, that comment is out there and targeted at family. I doubt I ever see her again IRL, but it's possible that I see her parents (my Uncle/Aunt) and it's possible that it comes back. I don't know if I would bother interrupting a conversation at a family gathering that espoused a similar sentiment, so why do anything here?
Regardless, this episode is making me realize that I need to just de-friend these people and move on. Yeah, it's sometimes nice seeing how people from your childhood turned out. Until it isn't.
The Boy Scouts are now just the Scouts?! Really?! I’m so confused. We have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. I am sympathetic to a lot of things in this sinful world. I don’t understand these liberals with their idiotic opinions, on labeling things by gender. If it’s equal, I.e Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts then leave it alone. I know from experience that the Girl Scouts empowers girls to be powerful independent women. Why would I want to integrate my daughters who identify as girls with boys who need different teachings in life? I feel there is a lack of father daughter/mother/son going on in todays world. My dad taught me everything the boy scouts would have taught me and I have precious memories from it. Parents today would rather pay someone else to teach their children life lessons and that is why we are in the world we are today
This is from a cousin that I grew up with.
Like, where do I even begin with this mess of contradictions? "We have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts" but "I don’t understand these liberals with their idiotic opinions, on labeling things by gender." Uh, what? In this case, aren't the liberals removing gender labels? Then there is the passive argument that both Boy and Girl Scouts are equal, when that could not be more hilariously wrong - one is known for Eagle Scouts and the other for selling cookies. At the bare minimum, girls were never allowed to become Eagle Scouts, simply because of their gender.
The most baffling shift is in the latter half, when she derides parents "would rather pay someone else to teach their children life lessons and that is why we are in the world we are today." So... basically any parent who sends their kids to either Boy or Girl Scouts? In which case, why would it matter in the first place that girls can join the Boy Scouts?
And fucking Christ, that complete lack of empathy from someone who supposedly is a Christian. "My dad taught me everything the boy scouts would have taught me." Good for you. Now what about all the other girls out there who don't have dads? Or abusive dads? Or dads who don't know everything there is to know about wilderness survival? Or the dads who understand their own limitations, and want their daughters to have the opportunity to pursue their passions and experience new things without being placed in a gendered box right from the start?
I've spent over and hour typing and retyping a response to that Facebook post. But what's the point? Would it make any difference at all? This isn't shouting into the void - once loosed, that comment is out there and targeted at family. I doubt I ever see her again IRL, but it's possible that I see her parents (my Uncle/Aunt) and it's possible that it comes back. I don't know if I would bother interrupting a conversation at a family gathering that espoused a similar sentiment, so why do anything here?
Regardless, this episode is making me realize that I need to just de-friend these people and move on. Yeah, it's sometimes nice seeing how people from your childhood turned out. Until it isn't.