Sherlock and Doctor Who: Moffat, STOP IT

Jan 18, 2012 09:39

Moffat says We're Doing it Wrong.

...or something to that effect.

Don't you remember all of the interview and tweets Moffat would put out saying that we had no fucking clue as to what was really going on with the Doctor, River, Amy, Rory, etc etc etc in Series 6? Remember how annoying they were, particularly when the ending made so little sense ( Read more... )

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jessicaqueen January 18 2012, 15:42:18 UTC
I hope to hell that there's some deeper substance to Steven Moffat that we never see, because if his public image accurately represents him, he just might be one of the biggest tools in the world this side of Charlie Sheen.

You're so spot on. The reason the public doesn't guess his big 'twists' is that they tend to be ridiculous and sometimes completely senseless. I think I need to go watch that skit again now. So hilarious.

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redknightalex January 18 2012, 15:55:06 UTC
He really needs a PR spokesperson to keep a lid on some of the really obnoxious things he says. I'm not sure he'd listen though.

It would really be hard to top Charlie Sheen in levels of tool-ness...and now I really want someone to compile Moffat's tweets and interviews for a meta on his utterly crappy PR/attitude. Over time, they get buried and (mostly) forgotten.

The reason the public doesn't guess his big 'twists' is that they tend to be ridiculous and sometimes completely senseless.

And when we expect "twists" we think not of something ridiculous/senseless but something that is, shockingly, a real twist that isn't OOC. That's probably why no one "gets it."

That skit cures all Moffat ills, I'm sure of it.

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kilodalton January 18 2012, 16:45:55 UTC
It would really be hard to top Charlie Sheen in levels of tool-ness...and now I really want someone to compile Moffat's tweets and interviews for a meta on his utterly crappy PR/attitude. Over time, they get buried and (mostly) forgotten.

The problem is that then his stans try to handwave it at him 'making jokes' that we, of course, are too stupid and don't have a good enough sense of humor to get -.- Sometimes people just see what they want to see unfortunately =/

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redknightalex January 18 2012, 16:56:52 UTC
And I hate it when people don't understand that, yeah, sometimes words do hurt more than fucking sticks. Sexist, racist, homophobic, etc etc jokes are not funny and there's nothing in the world that will make them funny. End of story. (Sorry, slight trigger point apparently.)

It sucks to see a show I love turn against me by stupid remarks the showrunner makes with no regard to what it might actually mean. And even if I might stan for some people, I can at least admit their flaws (yeah, RTD went slightly overboard with EoT and Miracle Day but at least he didn't go on Twitter and gloat about it). And I've read my fair share of stans for Moffat, most of which have an argument about an inch thin for why he says what he does.

No excuse for making "those jokes" in my book.

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kilodalton January 18 2012, 17:52:57 UTC
And I hate it when people don't understand that, yeah, sometimes words do hurt more than fucking sticks. Sexist, racist, homophobic, etc etc jokes are not funny and there's nothing in the world that will make them funny. End of story. (Sorry, slight trigger point apparently.)

Lol np at all. It's good to get angry about it. And it's good that articles like that Guardian article from a couple of weeks ago are coming out as well, at least re the sexism. If we (collectively) don't get mad, there's not even a hope of attitudes changing.

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redknightalex January 18 2012, 18:11:24 UTC
True but many people will get mad at you being mad, probably something reactionary, or understand that using derogatory words actually reinforces stereotypes. That, in turn, leads to more people using the word. I always call people out on using the term "gay" as slang for something lame/stupid/etc. Even my sister, of all people.

There have been so many studies on this that I wish I could grab my awesome bibliography (that does not exist) and tell people that words do a lot of damage. *looks at social psych book, The Social Animal* Oh! I found my studies! *gets caught up reading*

(I agree though. I'll be mad all I want! :P)

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kilodalton January 18 2012, 16:47:37 UTC
The reason the public doesn't guess his big 'twists' is that they tend to be ridiculous and sometimes completely senseless.

And the best part of it is, a lot of the theories on the twists are often better than the reality that he dumps on us!!

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_thirty2flavors January 18 2012, 17:06:49 UTC
Lol yeah. I remember when everyone was convinced River killed Rory (he's her dad and a better man than the Doctor) and/or that Rory was the "good man" goin to war because THE SHOW LITERALLY SAID THE DOCTOR IS NOT A GOOD MAN, IN THOSE WORDS. But nope.

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kilodalton January 18 2012, 17:51:07 UTC
Yup!! There could have been some really interesting metas in there. But alas ...

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