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Thanks to lycomingst for the bear hug! <3
So inlovewithnight and cidercupcakes made these lists of all their fictional narrative/storytelling kinks. And then we talked about it today and I said I would make mine. So I, uh, did that.
( In which redbrickrose's narrative kinks surprise exactly no one. I stopped at 30 because that seemed like a good number, but I probably could have kept going. )
So inlovewithnight and cidercupcakes made these lists of all their fictional narrative/storytelling kinks. And then we talked about it today and I said I would make mine. So I, uh, did that.
( In which redbrickrose's narrative kinks surprise exactly no one. I stopped at 30 because that seemed like a good number, but I probably could have kept going. )
It is why I still watch SPN even when it leaves me shrieking in rage at my television.
I think we have already had this conversation! So I won't go on again :D
We did, but oh man, I love it. I am so happy Z appeared on the bandom scene, because I'm not sure what my bandom involvement would have looked like if I hadn't had The Like (and Z's friendship with Ryan) to refocus some of it.
I guess the RPS thing makes us too anxious about vilifying real people or friendships.
I think that's really part of it - especially in a non au fic, I think writers are hesitant to villify anyone. And rightly so, actually. But oh man, professional rivalry kink fic would be AMAZING.
But I think my favourite is the subtrope, enemies forced to work together - especially if there's been a betrayal immediately beforehand,
Oh yes. And I guess Angel/Spike kind of fit that too now that I'm thinking about it. Maybe without the *immediate* betrayal, but yes.
What I keep thinking about post-Panic split, and keep wanting to see in fic, is Ryan and Jon's perspective on Spencer and Brendon getting to keep their songs. Not just singing and playing things that they wrote together, or that Ryan and Jon wrote, but performing things that Ryan and Jon are no longer allowed to.
I definitely think about that too and I both do and don't want to see fic about it. It would be GREAT if done, really, really well but it also makes me sad. And then I get so upset if I think about it for too long. This is because I am wretchedly overinvested in Ryan Ross. :(
Ahaha, no, I don't see any particular ship in that. You are as opaque as cement, my dear. Clearly.
Haha, yeah. I am super predictable, super obvious and super easy when it comes to my fannish interests, but Ryan/Brendon has been hitting buttons I did even know I had since 2007.
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I really agree. I haven't been feeling tragic about the rest of bandom, but these new girls and Z&Ryan are pretty much the only part actively making me happy.
But oh man, professional rivalry kink fic would be AMAZING.
Especially if it could be tightly focused on the music, rather than on the fame or success, so that it's really closely allied to the sports rivalry trope. It must be possible.
I definitely think about that too and I both do and don't want to see fic about it. It would be GREAT if done, really, really well but it also makes me sad.
It doesn't even necessarily have to be angsty. Maybe Ryan's happy that the songs are living on live! Or maybe he never wants to hear any of them again! I don't know, just, I really want it explored.
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I don't know if I'm feeling tragic necessarily (except occasionally still about the Panic split /o\) but I am kind of 'eh' about it and The Like and Ryan&Z are definitely what's keeping me here. (Well, and Cobra Starship, of course).
It doesn't even necessarily have to be angsty. Maybe Ryan's happy that the songs are living on live! Or maybe he never wants to hear any of them again! I don't know, just, I really want it explored.
I automatically go to a super angsty place in my head, because that's just how I roll, but you're right that it doesn't have to be. I think it would be most interesting if it's kind of somewhere in the middle, you know? Ryan maybe doesn't *want* to play those songs anymore (especially the ones off Fever), but there are still layers of tension and possessiveness and weirdness.
I actually am surprised that issue hasn't been explored more, but there's a bunch of post-split fics I keep *waiting* for that just haven't happened yet.
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