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FIRST: Look at this picture of Gabe and Vicky-T.
Okay, now we can continue. Here are my answers to the five fandom things meme.
netweight: ( Top five TV moments/scenes. Any kind of scene. You know, the stuff that made your jaw drop the first time you watched it, or that couple getting together, or that death that totally broke your heart, or that plot twist your never saw coming, or that moment you fell in love with a character, etc, etc. Anything goes! (contains spoilers for SPN s2 and 4, AtS s1, X-Files s5 and Farscape s2) )
Okay, now we can continue. Here are my answers to the five fandom things meme.
netweight: ( Top five TV moments/scenes. Any kind of scene. You know, the stuff that made your jaw drop the first time you watched it, or that couple getting together, or that death that totally broke your heart, or that plot twist your never saw coming, or that moment you fell in love with a character, etc, etc. Anything goes! (contains spoilers for SPN s2 and 4, AtS s1, X-Files s5 and Farscape s2) )
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That's a dangerous question, you know. Now half my flist will disown me:
1) Tyrol/Cally (BSG; squickiest canon ship ever!)
2) Angel/Cordy (AtS; could have lived with it in theory, but the execution was *painful*)
3) Ten/Rose (Dr. Who - we've had this conversation. I get squicked by the idea of the Dr. paired romantically with any companion. It was just most obvious with Rose).
4) Sam/Dean (SPN; I AM SORRY FANDOM. I love their relationship, the incest just won't ever work for me).
5) Spike/Xander (BtVS; I get where the chemistry comes from, but I could just never wrap my head around Xander with a vampire when he never seemed to really forgive Buffy for it).
I also have complicated opinions on other Panic at the Disco ships, but those are pretty ridiculously irrational and I don't want to talk about it. /o\
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With Sam/Dean it's not about the power dynamic. If it was done in a baddirtywrong way, I could so totally roll with that. It's just that there's so much emphasis on happy-ending wincest in fandom and it just doesn't work for me. Too much incest(or codependency or both) squick. *hands*
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You know what I've never though, Ianto/Jack being similarly problematic - maybe because Doctor > Jack in terms of his difference from (other) humans but then again, the fact that Jack is eternal has changed him a lot which did cause problems for them. Hmm.....
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Ianto/Jack never pinged me as squicky in the same way either. Jack being immortal did cause problems for them, but it always struck me more as *tragic* than anything else. But immortal/mortal pairings ALWAYS ping me as tragic - sometimes that doesn't work for me and sometimes it really does, but it depends on the pairing. That's actually a huge amount of the appeal of something like Buffy/Angel for me. I love them, but part of what I love is the tragedy. I'm not sure why it's squickier with the Doctor except that he's just knows SO MUCH more and is so alien (even if he isn't always played that way on the show). It's just that extra level to the power imbalance.
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I think SPN is a tragedy so if it's done in a way where there were big flashing lights of THIS IS FUCKED UP all over the fic then, well, *that* could be compelling. I just need the acknowledgment of the depth of the fuckedupness. (I still don't know if I'd seek it out, though? Because if it's done in a way that really worked for me it would probably be too depressing for me to really want to read it. Catch-22).
I honestly feel similarly about Dean/Castiel, though. It's fucked up for other reasons, but I still need the fuckedupness acknowledged - though I admit I haven't read much so I don't really know how it's usually done. I haven't actually read much SPN fic at all in a long time.
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Work sucks. I'm supposed to be doing work right now. I don't want to. :(
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