I just read a post in which a Thelemite made the statement of "We are not equal." It was used in the context that some people are better than others
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What evidence do you show to support this position? AC saw magick as what one person does, not some state that people are.
Magick is the art of causing change in existing phenomena. This definition includes raising the dead, bewitching cattle, making rain, acquiring goods, fascinating judges, and all the rest of the programme. Good: but it also includes every act soever? Yes; I meant it to do so. It is not possible to utter word or do deed without producing the exact effect proper and necessary thereto. Thus Magick is the Art of Life itself.
He also noted about magick:
Remember, also, that, unless you know what your true will is, you may be devoting the most laudable energies to destroying yourself. Remember that every word and deed is a witness to thought, that therefore your mind must be perfectly organized, its sole duty to interpret circumstances in terms of the Will so that speech and action may be rightly directed to express the Will appropriately to the occasion. Remember that every word and deed which is not a definite expression of your Will counts against it, indifference worse than hostility. Your enemy is at least interested in you: you may make him your friend as you never can do with a neutral. Remember that Magick is the Art of Life, therefore of causing change in accordance with Will; therefore its law is "love under will", and its every movement is an act of love.
Magick is what you do, it does not make people equal. However, it is an equal opportunity builder and destroyer. Do what thou wilt.
Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
Once more the commentaries give the context of this verse and your use is out of context.
We are asked to axquiesce in this Law of Nature. That is, we are not to oppose resistance to the perfect fluidity of the "Becoming" of Nature. Similarly, we are not to attach more importance to any one momentary appearance than to any other. For, the moment we do so, we confirm illusion of Duality. We assert Imperfection as absolute instead of as a device of Perfection for self-appreciation.
It seems to me that the stars are naturally unequal, just like people. Do you see it differently? If so, does nature support your perspective?
I have consistently shown my evidence here in this thread and not given you the spurious instructions to go look it up here or there. Are you able to do the same? IF not then it would seem your are grasping at straws.
****Remember, also, that, unless you know what your true will is, you may be devoting the most laudable energies to destroying yourself.****
Exactly, so if a person does not know their own true will, how is it that a friend will know what their true will is? If I don not know my own true will, there is no way you can know my true will. (that was a reference to you and me, but an example).
What evidence do you show to support this position? AC saw magick as what one person does, not some state that people are.
Magick is the art of causing change in existing phenomena. This definition includes raising the dead, bewitching cattle, making rain, acquiring goods, fascinating judges, and all the rest of the programme. Good: but it also includes every act soever? Yes; I meant it to do so. It is not possible to utter word or do deed without producing the exact effect proper and necessary thereto. Thus Magick is the Art of Life itself.
He also noted about magick:
Remember, also, that, unless you know what your true will is, you may be devoting the most laudable energies to destroying yourself. Remember that every word and deed is a witness to thought, that therefore your mind must be perfectly organized, its sole duty to interpret circumstances in terms of the Will so that speech and action may be rightly directed to express the Will appropriately to the occasion. Remember that every word and deed which is not a definite expression of your Will counts against it, indifference worse than hostility. Your enemy is at least interested in you: you may make him your friend as you never can do with a neutral. Remember that Magick is the Art of Life, therefore of causing change in accordance with Will; therefore its law is "love under will", and its every movement is an act of love.
Magick is what you do, it does not make people equal. However, it is an equal opportunity builder and destroyer. Do what thou wilt.
Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
Once more the commentaries give the context of this verse and your use is out of context.
We are asked to axquiesce in this Law of Nature. That is, we are not to oppose resistance to the perfect fluidity of the "Becoming" of Nature. Similarly, we are not to attach more importance to any one momentary appearance than to any other.
For, the moment we do so, we confirm illusion of Duality. We assert Imperfection as absolute instead of as a device of Perfection for self-appreciation.
It seems to me that the stars are naturally unequal, just like people. Do you see it differently? If so, does nature support your perspective?
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From his own writings of course. He called it mixing of planes. Read "Do what thou wilt."
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Exactly, so if a person does not know their own true will, how is it that a friend will know what their true will is? If I don not know my own true will, there is no way you can know my true will. (that was a reference to you and me, but an example).
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