The Earth Her Body - Fic by La Noyee, (and random thoughts about the women of the 'verse) (1/?)

Jun 17, 2013 14:53

ETA: Additional screencaps added below cut - which has also been added. (Post in haste, repent at leisure.)

Take a Moment: by   lanoyee. Gen, Buffy, Tara, Dawn. A "deleted scene" , post-"Grave"; Buffy bids a friend good-bye. Spare, elegant and melancholy, it's a scene I wish had been in the show.  One of the things I love best about BtVS is how ( Read more... )

char: dawn summers, sisters and other strangers, fandom: btvs, char: buffy summers, char: joyce summers, women of the buffyverse, meta, char: tara maclay, fic recs, pairing: buffy/tara

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lanoyee June 19 2013, 18:19:22 UTC
I actually felt bad because I was so extravagent in my praise of comlodge's Winged!Buffy present but way behind on the link I'd promised for your's. Anyway, I probably should have warned you - when I want to "rec" something, I go all out and tend to be "lush". tis my nature.

I feel so warm and fuzzy about it, really! I'm just unused to being anything but a lurker. ♥

*sigh of relief* At first I started freaking out that I had offended you.

Ahh, I'm sorry about that! Yeah, I may sometimes make jokes like that. I'll avoid it in the future, but if I do end up doing it -- let's say all caps and smileys are a pretty good indicator I'm kidding? Sorry for scaring you. /hugs

It's probably a good thing that I didn't use this one, right?

Yes. Yes, very good. Oh, how it burns. Oh, how everyone is sad.

I don't know if it's my fantasy or reality that they get it right in Europe more often in terms of diversity of women, including mature women onscreen? I know when my partner and I want to see mature women in a movie, we generally turn to "foreign films".

Huh, that's interesting. I'm not sure I can speak about mature women, specifically -- the examples I listed are children's media and about children or young women.

EXACTLY. Isn't that the POINT of the series? Buffy goes to her death twice not just as an act of duty but an act of LOVE. Love expressed through service, as angearia expressed it beautifully years ago.

Yes! That's a thought I've seen expressed often -- that action, and acts of service to others is just how Buffy does love. She's not very verbal about it.

And this is something I find very interesting about the fact that Buffy is a woman in a role that is, in many ways, traditionally and most often a male one -- in that the fact that she is a woman, a person usually expected to be emotional and emotionally open, serves to starkly set off just what that kind of life does to a person. I feel when male characters act standoffish and emotionless, it's much less noticeable because, well, that's how we expect them to act. And thus it's easy to overlook that this kind of life full of traumatic event after traumatic event affects and shapes them just as well. Which is kinda sad, but uhh. Here I'll show my personal bias, but I'm not personally interested in more stories about dude heroes and their manpain. :P

I need as much of this sort of enabling (ie kick in the pants) as I can get.

/adds brownies

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red_satin_doll June 28 2013, 20:21:16 UTC
I feel so warm and fuzzy about it, really! I'm just unused to being anything but a lurker. ♥

*lol* I'm glad you came out I'm always happy to chat with you! BTW, I really thought I had already replied to this. Oh well - this is why my inbox is so full.

I'll avoid it in the future, but if I do end up doing it -- let's say all caps and smileys are a pretty good indicator I'm kidding? Sorry for scaring you. /hugs

Oh no, please don't! I have a very dry and ironic (read: sarcastic) sense of humor myself, so I should remember to read the entire damn reply before I react. Because I don't want you to "hold back" on that. *hugs back*

that action, and acts of service to others is just how Buffy does love. She's not very verbal about it.

Did I link to these metas already? Best EVAH
http://gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com/272405.html
http://gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com/273029.html

in that the fact that she is a woman, a person usually expected to be emotional and emotionally open, serves to starkly set off just what that kind of life does to a person. I feel when male characters act standoffish and emotionless, it's much less noticeable because, well, that's how we expect them to act.

YES, SO MUCH TO THIS. And conversely, when women are warm and caring (and take on all the responsibilities for childcare etc) it's expected; a father watches his kids and it's called "babysittiing". And Buffy gets it from both directions, as do a lot of single moms IMO. Or the Tara in Tough Love vs Spike in Intervention comparison.

Here I'll show my personal bias, but I'm not personally interested in more stories about dude heroes and their manpain. :P

I've been told several times that I "Must" watch AtS, and I'm just not interested. I've grown up my whole life with male-centric stories.

/adds brownies

*Accepts brownies and runs away*

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