Adventures in Photoshop, Part __ ?

May 09, 2016 11:10

Trying to teach myself PS CC is sometimes fun and sometimes sends me screaming into the night. As in last night, trying to correct a photograph of a rose I wanted to have printed and just muffing it up horribly. *le sigh ( Read more... )

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teragramm May 9 2016, 15:53:35 UTC
You did a great job with the coloring on this. Coloring is very hard master, especially if you are using Selective coloring. I'm still learning and experimenting with color. And as I have said before coloring that is acceptable for fan art isn't always acceptable on RL images.

For sharpening I use two different methods...1st way----- In filters, under sharpen, I use the unsharp mask. I adjust the mask to my liking, without getting the image too pixelated. 2nd way-----Duplicate the image, go to filters, then down to other, then click on high pass. I adjust high pass until it looks like there is a slight film over the image. Then I set the top image (the one with the film) to soft light. Then I adjust the opacity to my liking and merge the two layers.

In the photo studio (before the days of PS) I was taught this mnemonic for coloring.
My - Great (Magenta - Green)
Big - Yellow (Blue - Yellow)
Cadillac - Runs (Cyan - Red)
Which really isn't necessary now with photoshop but it still is fun.

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red_satin_doll May 9 2016, 21:28:17 UTC
Wow, thank you so much for the compliment! As I said to rbvfid, I photographed the cooler one in a shadow and was trying to get it to match the daylight look of the other photos I took that day - and now I like the edited result better than the other ones shot in actual daylight, the tone is much warmer.

Color is HARD though because there are so many variables. What we call color includes hue and tone, saturation, temperature, light and shadow. It's a lot more complicated than a box of crayolas.

What is selective coloring?

coloring that is acceptable for fan art isn't always acceptable on RL images

Very true.

Thank you for the sharpening tips! I want to watch some tutorials on the unsharp mask because a lot of people seem to rely on it and recommend that tool. Comlodge and chasingdemons for example. Your second method - I'll have to walk myself through that one before it makes sense then come back with questions. So much of this is learn as I go (and then hope I don't forget what I just did!)

In the photo studio (before ( ... )

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teragramm May 9 2016, 22:31:07 UTC
What is selective coloring? Selective color is the way most people adjust color in photo shop The mnemonic I mention tells you how to correct color.
Green is used to tone down Magenta, Blue is used to tone down Yellow and Cyan is used to tone down Red. ( And vise versa)

Here is a screen capture of how to find selective color. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/teragramm4/Textures%20and%20stock/selective%20color.jpg
If you notice on the right is the sliding scale of Red......Cyan, Magenta.....Green, Blue......Yellow and white.....black

You can use Color Balance too but I feel Selective coloring is more precise. Plus Color balance doesn't have black and white. Selective coloring is great for brightening up dark BtVS caps.

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red_satin_doll May 11 2016, 21:45:48 UTC
The mnemonic I mention tells you how to correct color.
Green is used to tone down Magenta, Blue is used to tone down Yellow and Cyan is used to tone down Red. ( And vise versa)

Ok thank you that makes total sense! The screencap doesn't look like my mac setup but I found selective color in the new adjustment layer menu and this tutorial seems like it might be helpful: http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/selective-coloring/

A friend gave me a little walk-through on creating a new adjustment layer last night and gave me a 5-minute workshop and taught me how to use Curves to adjust contrast, and I'd never done that before. I'll have to try selective color next.

for brightening up dark BtVS caps.
And conversely I'd imagine it would come in handy to add contrast and definition to some of the late seasons caps that look weirdly flat because of the more "naturalist" lighting?

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teragramm May 11 2016, 22:13:48 UTC
Many of the adjustment layers (to use an old quote) takes 5 minutes to learn but a lifetime to master. I have managed with selective color but curves is still a mystery to me.

The tutorial seems like a good one for b/w with spot color.

Screen caps are different than photos and not all photo tutorials work for screen caps (and vise versa). If you are looking for a tutorial for screen caps there are ton of them on lj. If you can't find any you like drop me a line and I'll give you a few pointers and steer you in the right direction. Although, I have found that on many tutorials, my results were different than how it turned out in the tutorial.

Many years ago I found a tutorial that I like and have been using it to brighten caps, with little tweaks here and there.

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red_satin_doll May 13 2016, 17:15:53 UTC
Many years ago I found a tutorial that I like and have been using it to brighten caps, with little tweaks here and there.

I'd be interested in that one :D

Right now one of the things I have to look up is the correct way and format to save files. I've found I've tried to reopen some files I've worked on and PS can't find or open it so I end up going back to the original. What are the best formats to save things and what about those little boxes that come up (to save as a copy or not? To compress or not? PSD, tiff, png?) I've tried reading Adobe's tutorial and it was still greek to me.

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teragramm May 14 2016, 01:02:19 UTC
A lot of artists save images as png but because of my photo studio experience I always save mine as jpeg (most photo labs only except jpeg).

I either save as a copy or give the copy a new name. It is sometimes easier to give a new name because if the file is IMG_2445 and I have worked on it I will call it IMG_2445a, so I know I've working on it.

To compress or not? Since I don't usually do png or tiff I don't have need to compress or not.

PSD.... Is the image with all the layers....if you flattened the image, then there is no need to save it as a PSD.

I've tried reading Adobe's tutorial and it was still greek to me. Yes, I think they design it that way on purpose.

I'd be interested in that one :D Sure I'll PM it to you.

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red_satin_doll May 19 2016, 22:06:51 UTC
I did receive the tutorial thank you! Haven't tried it out yet. today I was trying to teach myself to use the quick selection tool to cut around images of Willow and Tara so I could merge them into layers and - half the time the QS tool worked and half the time it did not. Very frustrating. And half the time I could figure out how to actually cut away the pixels outside the figure once I've drawn the line.
*argh* It's slowing me down tremendously.

But at least I'm learning bit by bit.

I either save as a copy or give the copy a new name. It is sometimes easier to give a new name because if the file is IMG_2445 and I have worked on it I will call it IMG_2445a, so I know I've working on it. I do something very similar! I always add a number or letter at the end so I know which version or simply that I've edited it. Thank you for the info on files, I think I'm starting to understand each one better. I'm surprised jpg's are such a standard format because they're "lossy" (is that the term?) You lose some information every time you ( ... )

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teragramm May 19 2016, 22:24:52 UTC
A few things to remember with the quick selection tool....1. make sure your opacity is 100% or this can change the outcome of the QS. After you have made the selection, to the menu (on top) ... to Select and then down to Inverse the QS, then you can copy the part of the image you just did the QS. You can now paste it on same image or a different one.

Did that help?

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red_satin_doll May 20 2016, 12:52:40 UTC
Thank you - I actually don't quite understand this all yet but - let me go back and try again with the tool and see how it works.

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red_satin_doll May 26 2016, 03:05:45 UTC
Coming back to this to say YES, your advice about the QS tool was very helpful once I put it into practice, thank you!

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teragramm May 28 2016, 01:03:07 UTC
So glad it helped. The inverse had me puzzled too when I first used the QS tool.

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red_satin_doll May 28 2016, 06:25:52 UTC
I can't say I'm any good at using it yet however. That's just going to take lotsa practice.

I also miss being able to simply "erase" pixels in ipiccy when I'm adding a new filter or layer.

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