Johnny Depp, Clin Farell and Jude Law all donated what they made on their newest movie 'The imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus' to Heath Ledgers daughter Matilda, as he did not have a will when he passed. Amazing
Logic: People are likely to help their friends/family. Not everyone but I'm sure you'd agree most decent people would help their friends and family in a time of need.
Logic: People with lots of money find it easier to give money away than people without lots of money.
There, that's how I worked it out in my head. Keep in mind I did commend those three lads for what they did, it's a great thing, I just don't think it's worth going kookoo for cocoa puffs over. Celebrities are held high on pedestals and anything and everything they do is praised and treated as if more important than when normal folk do similar things. There are lots of non-celebrities who give to charity and volunteer their time to help people who are, as you put it, "unrelated to them." Good for Johnny Depp, good for Colin Farrel and good for Jude Law (even though he's a prick), but to me it's not A-MAZING ZOMG~! Shouldn't stuff like this be expected of these people? And many of them do give money. Take Bill Gates for example, who, with his wife, has established a foundation that gives away BILLIONS of dollars towards health and science research. I know you say Heath Ledger's child isn't a charity but I draw the comparison because I think it's apt. Giving to a charity to help children you don't know and giving to one specific child you do know is pretty similar, no? One could argue helping people you'll never even meet is even better, but I digress...
And come on, surely you can't be so cynical and bitter that you think any time someone says 'please' or 'thank you' in this "world we live in today" is AMAZING.
I also don't understand what Depp being on set for only two days has to do with anything but, uh, that's neat?
You are the only person I have ever met who calls me cynical / bitter. I am neither. I find it interesting because if I am both of those things - what are you? How do you see yourself? Just curious. I wasn't making a huge deal about it, I was merely commenting that it was a really nice thing I had read in the paper that morning. As far as we know his father who is handling the estate might very well give his daughter exactly what is her right as his child, regardless of the speculation that he will mismanage the money just as he did with his own. The fact that these three made this decision to donate the money they made on the film as a failsafe to make sure she is taken care of is really what I found amazing about the story. That's not 'please and thank you's'.
Ok, you don't understand what I'm saying but that's alright. Look, I'm not trying to change your opinion on this. You merely commented on the story and stated your opinion and I replied and stated mine. You think it's AMAZING, I think it's nice but in the grand scheme of things not particularly amazing.
As for the cynic thing. As someone who sees any bit of generosity in "this world we live in" as amazing, I'm wondering how you can say you're not cynical. "This world we live in" isn't so bad. Generosity and kindness happen every day. Lots of people every day are doing generous and kind things, it's just not reported on unless they are celebrities. Take this example, which you never heard of: about a month ago I was walking from the TD Bank on 6th here in New West. As I'm sure you know there was all that construction and whatnot going on and portions of the sidewalk were closed and you had to walk along the street. Ahead of me was an old lady, probably 70s, and we got to the curb where you could step up to once again walk on the sidewalk at the same time. She stopped and motioned for me to go ahead of her, since she was old and I'm young and studly. Instead of going ahead of her I stopped and offered my hand to help her step up the curb, which she gladly took. AMAZING? No. A small, kind gesture to a fellow human being that really doesn't warrant any praise or thanks at all except from the person who received the kind gesture? Absolutely.
Kindness and generosity are everywhere. People are generally good towards one another, and sure there are some bad apples as there are in any orchard, but overall, people are good. These kind acts aren't hard to spot either, unless you're only looking for the bad and the horrible, then they are easy to miss.
Someone who claims any bit of generosity is amazing in "this world we live in" sounds bitter and cynical to me. Overall you think this world is bad, and you think people overall are bad.
All this stuff is just my outlook anyway. You are perfectly allowed to think this world is no good. I would agree with many aspects (religion, government, child molesters, awful treatment of third world countries) but as a whole I believe humans as a species and "this world we live in" in general is pretty rad.
Just because I took a moment to remark on a particular act of kindness does not mean that I do not appreciate them all day long. And it certainly doesn't mean that I think the world is an ugly place full of ugly people. I surround myself in beauty all day long, and do my best to surround myself with people who appreciate it. I'm happy you helped out a senior citizen as it's something that I do on a very regular basis. Manners, respect, courtesy and kindness are on the very top of my list of important things to pay unto others.
Logic: People with lots of money find it easier to give money away than people without lots of money.
There, that's how I worked it out in my head. Keep in mind I did commend those three lads for what they did, it's a great thing, I just don't think it's worth going kookoo for cocoa puffs over. Celebrities are held high on pedestals and anything and everything they do is praised and treated as if more important than when normal folk do similar things. There are lots of non-celebrities who give to charity and volunteer their time to help people who are, as you put it, "unrelated to them." Good for Johnny Depp, good for Colin Farrel and good for Jude Law (even though he's a prick), but to me it's not A-MAZING ZOMG~! Shouldn't stuff like this be expected of these people? And many of them do give money. Take Bill Gates for example, who, with his wife, has established a foundation that gives away BILLIONS of dollars towards health and science research. I know you say Heath Ledger's child isn't a charity but I draw the comparison because I think it's apt. Giving to a charity to help children you don't know and giving to one specific child you do know is pretty similar, no? One could argue helping people you'll never even meet is even better, but I digress...
And come on, surely you can't be so cynical and bitter that you think any time someone says 'please' or 'thank you' in this "world we live in today" is AMAZING.
I also don't understand what Depp being on set for only two days has to do with anything but, uh, that's neat?
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I wasn't making a huge deal about it, I was merely commenting that it was a really nice thing I had read in the paper that morning. As far as we know his father who is handling the estate might very well give his daughter exactly what is her right as his child, regardless of the speculation that he will mismanage the money just as he did with his own. The fact that these three made this decision to donate the money they made on the film as a failsafe to make sure she is taken care of is really what I found amazing about the story. That's not 'please and thank you's'.
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As for the cynic thing. As someone who sees any bit of generosity in "this world we live in" as amazing, I'm wondering how you can say you're not cynical. "This world we live in" isn't so bad. Generosity and kindness happen every day. Lots of people every day are doing generous and kind things, it's just not reported on unless they are celebrities. Take this example, which you never heard of: about a month ago I was walking from the TD Bank on 6th here in New West. As I'm sure you know there was all that construction and whatnot going on and portions of the sidewalk were closed and you had to walk along the street. Ahead of me was an old lady, probably 70s, and we got to the curb where you could step up to once again walk on the sidewalk at the same time. She stopped and motioned for me to go ahead of her, since she was old and I'm young and studly. Instead of going ahead of her I stopped and offered my hand to help her step up the curb, which she gladly took. AMAZING? No. A small, kind gesture to a fellow human being that really doesn't warrant any praise or thanks at all except from the person who received the kind gesture? Absolutely.
Kindness and generosity are everywhere. People are generally good towards one another, and sure there are some bad apples as there are in any orchard, but overall, people are good. These kind acts aren't hard to spot either, unless you're only looking for the bad and the horrible, then they are easy to miss.
Someone who claims any bit of generosity is amazing in "this world we live in" sounds bitter and cynical to me. Overall you think this world is bad, and you think people overall are bad.
All this stuff is just my outlook anyway. You are perfectly allowed to think this world is no good. I would agree with many aspects (religion, government, child molesters, awful treatment of third world countries) but as a whole I believe humans as a species and "this world we live in" in general is pretty rad.
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I'm happy you helped out a senior citizen as it's something that I do on a very regular basis. Manners, respect, courtesy and kindness are on the very top of my list of important things to pay unto others.
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