Go Vote Please

Nov 07, 2006 06:57

I planned on drawing up the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and some of Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson's correspondences to each other and several people. Of course I was also fucking tired last night and passed out, so I'll try to sum it up since I have about 2 seconds before I have to leave to go vote and still try to make it in ( Read more... )

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rebelpilot November 7 2006, 16:57:25 UTC
Rephrase, we live in a representative democracy (or Democratic Republic). We are neither a full democratic state nor a full republic.

As for your Boycott, you realize the founding fathers ( I swear Thomas Jefferson Spoke of this to great extent, and so did Franklina nd John Adams. After Ig et out of work, if you require references I will get them for you, I just need to get some of my Politics class stuff.) said if you relinquish your rigth to vote, your basically forfeiting your right to representation and rights protected under the constitution. As a citizen you have a right to vote for anyone, even yourself.

If you feel so strongly against the current major represenatives available, it's your dutya nd responsibility to speak upa nd create change. One is voting for a third party or even yourself. That shows that you personally are unhappy with the way that the major powers are running your government. Even though your canidate may not win, it voices an opinion that there is little to no agreemnet with the policies of whoever wins. I realize the eventaul winner may not support yhour ideals, but you ahve voiced your opinion. This in turn completes your responsiblity to your country and further gives you the backing for the right to complaint.

Now consider this, even if your thirdy party representative doens't win, you just voted in a direction of ideals that may warrent serious consideration. If you can help spread thier message then more and more will begin to vote in such a direction. The two party system really is only a very recent trend. There was as mucha s 5 strong parties in Linocln's time, and as much as 4 strong parties by Theodore Roosevelt's time. Change is possible, you just have to have the conviction. If you feel so strongly, why not run for local elections and work your way up. If a 18 year old who feels strongly that his city government doens't work can run and WIN a mayoral race (This does exists, it's in Minnesota, then you yourself can create change. You can't solve a problem over night, but by striding slowly, you can begin to correct what you see as issues. YOur fore-fathers almost dictate taht you must exercise your right to free speech and go about changes to better your government, instead of being a sunshine patriot and only taking actions when it's most opportune. If you feel so strongly about something, doing nothing achieves nothing, doing something can lead to change.

There's a whole Marxian philospohpy about the evoloution of government and how a two party system is one step closer to utopia. I agree with it, but it's very complex to argue. So what does this mean to you? Greanted one can feel locked by only two parties guiding us, which is why if you feel that strongly against it, vote thrid party or yourself.

The voting issue of 04 was more on the fact many young voters dind't register until days before the election when it was stated many times you need to register 30 days before a major election. Once your registered for election, your are registered for all subsequent elections as long as you voted in the past two years (ie, if you vote at the presidential electiona nd then the midterm, your fine.). Because one cannot follow simple rules doesn't mean that it's totally the governments' fault. When thousands of late comers are trying to register so that they can verify that your not fraudulently voting, then it can be a tough workload to handle. If you properly prepare for soemthing, then you usually have little to no issues when the event comes. If you wait till the last second to prepare for something, then usually something bad happens or something goes wrong. Preparation my friend.

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rebelpilot November 7 2006, 16:57:37 UTC

Your also somewhat wrong on Federal law superceeding State Law. Only the constitution can superceed federal law. A topic like Gay Marriages right now is handled on a state by state basis. So is something like Drugs (ie marijuana is somewhat legal in Oregon). That is why we have a right to judicial review. We then are able to obtain a verdict like Roe Versus Wade ( a woman's right to choose.). Your blowing the fires of gay marriage in the wrong direction. What you need to do is convince your local represenattive that you support gay marraiges (In your state senate not the federal senate). The daily rigths and effects on the lives of citizens are dictated on a state level. The personal freedoms and saftey of our citizens are dictated at a federal level.

If you truly believe that Voting doesn't affect our daily lives, have you seen gas prices latley? Your friend or brother whos' fighting in Iraq right now? How about the paranoia that Homeland security has induced us to? Maybe NEt Neutrality, ever hear of that? Not to start a politcal war here, but let's be honest, such agenda's are the consequence of a Republican Agenda (namely Mr Bush.). Now tell me Voting doesnt' affect my daily life.

It's time to stake a chance in congress, get the republicans out and vote for those who supports your ideals (Vis-a-vie Mr Laughtenburg and MR Menedez Support Net Neutrality, where as most republican's are against, so don't Vote Kean if your in Jersey, Let's keep the Net Neutral People. http://www.savetheinternet.com/=senatetally)

So Colin, you really want to relinquish your rigth to voice your opinion? Do you honestly believe that sitting at home and doing nothing is really exercising your responsibilities AND rights as a citizen? If I saw you leading protests right now saying what PRECISLEY is wrong with our government and what CHANGES can be done to amke it better than I can understand your decision to sit at home and do nothing cause your government has failed you. For some reason though, I can't remember you being at any Rallies recently?

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downfrodeo November 7 2006, 17:57:02 UTC
I don't really have the time to get into this at the moment, but we can have our discussion in the near future.

As far as rallies are concerned, peacful assembly really doesn't accomplish a whole lot. As you've said numerous times, you can make a big enough of a stink that your voice is heard. Yet, as evidenced by the rallies that took place when we first went to war, the administration (not just current) is going to carry on as planned regardless of public opinion.

In terms of the gay marriage thing, I can't recall where or when (which helps my argument alot) but good ol georgie was flown in by helicopter to stop thousands of people from getting married, despite the state law legalizing it. The centralization of power is what has me the most concerned at this point.

I'm also not sitting home doing nothing....I'm working a 14 hour day today damnit.....lol

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rebelpilot November 7 2006, 19:26:32 UTC
I think you were thinking of the Gay marraige thing in Boston or something. I know what your talking about, but because the president flies somewhere doens't mean he can stop state rights =P.

As for the rallies, really quickly, the timing was off, the country was still split on the war (Or more like confusing patriotism with blind devotion and fear of reprisal). If htey happened now, Bush will resign Nixon style.

And lastly, most of the personal stuff I siad were hyperbole (I know your working, I'm just syaing you know, not voting specailly if your already registered and you went htis morning it took me no more than 10 minutes.). It's hard to make a point if we are too literal =P

I should have been a politician dang it.

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downfrodeo November 7 2006, 19:34:04 UTC
we all should have been. that, or jedi.

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rebelpilot November 7 2006, 20:01:07 UTC
Jedi, definaltey Jedi.

They get way more chicks than politicans.

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