Winnebago Warriors

[reanimator]

Winnebago Warriors on the NIN/With Teeth tour 2006, part 3 The secondary marketsChampaign-Milwaukee-Moline-GreenBay-DesMoines-Lincoln-KansasCity-GrandRapids-Toledo-FortWayne-Lexington-Cincinnati-Amherst-Portland-QuebecCity-Ottawa-London-Erie-Rochester-Amherst-AtlanticCity-Knoxville-Richmond-Greenville-Miami-Pensacola-NorthLittleRock-CorpusChrist-

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[reanimator]

Let's say we're keeping all options open...What speaks against it: theis part of the tour comes really, really too soon for my taste (got work to finish etc.); I've hardly recovered from the last trip and still have horrible sleeping patterns; and I thought (but maybe you'll disagree with me..) that the setlist of NIN's turned really boring and repetitive (the sequence of MrSelfdestruct, Terrible Lie, Sin, Line begins to blur, March of the Pigs, SICNH, Closer, Burn, Gave, Eraser, RWIB, BYIT, Piggy, Only, EDIETS, Hurt, THTF, HLAH) with the showelements repeating over and over as well. So that it felt as soon as the show started I knew what happens next and it's just a big clocking down towards the end with minor hopes for extraordinary stuff like Please, Even deeper etc.
...and I thought the musicians seemed pretty bored with the setlist as well and sometimes that showed musically...and I can't believe Trent would change much towards the summer.
Then half of the venues have no GA, which sucks in my opinion...

I dunno, I'm really doublebound, I wish I wasn't :/

[le_soleil_faux]

i agree totally. i was expecting big things for cabazon and then we really just got every song they've played throughout the tour, plus please, which i don't think i got at any other show (though after so many one loses track haha). i really really hope the setlist gets changed up, he's got so much to pull from. only going to 6 shows this time around, because i hate ampitheatres, and the hotel costs were getting to be a bit much. plus gas is near 3$ now. the money is running out now that i'm moving and spending tons on that. but we'll see how things go. options open :)

[ilna]

I really don't get it. Everyone at the concerts seems to be totally happy, while in one-to-one conversations, i really hear quite a lot of boredom and sheer exasperation at the repetitiveness of the setlists. It's really as if people (and mainly the ones who attend many shows) were really starting to get turned off by that matter. That, and the fact that four tours in the same area and in hardly more than a year is bleeding everyone dry..

I wonder whether the powers that be in their high Olymp are aware of this, and decide to ignore it, or whether they're just delusional ?

(i'm saying "they" because i think there's a possibility for it not to be only TR's decisions, but also for production/management to have their word in this.)

Anyhow, crossing my fingers for a change there..

[le_soleil_faux]

The shows are all fantastic, and worth every penny I've spent, but one of the good things about the club shows last spring...Adrienne and I went to 5 club shows and every one had a different setlist. Sometimes it was just a different order, but there was an element of surprise you know? So I'll keep going to shows, but I do hope for a change. It was nice to hear "home" again in cabazon. I'd really like more Fragile songs, instrumentals too. As long as they keep "burn" :)

[reanimator]

Yeah ,that's the very tragedy - the songs are the best in the world, the band is probably the best in the world, probably the most motivated/professional/energetic frontman on earth, an excellent light show, excellent crew and excellent sound guys - and yet with the repetitiveness of the setlist it turns into a drag, that clocking down phenomenon. I agree with you when you say that even changing the order of the same songs would loosen things up and add surprise. There's always that argument about certain staples can't be changed because one-time concert goers would be disappointed otherwise - but I think that's bollocks. There's no rule saying that one time concert-goers can't be disappointed while multiple time concert goers can...so I don't know the NIN headquarters, they really turn me sick. Ruining on the business level everything that could be possible artistically :/

[le_soleil_faux]

There are alot of bands, like Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews Band, who DON'T play their big songs. Pearl Jam alot of times doesn't play "alive" or "jeremy"...that's there thing. I don't see why NIN can't skip "head like a hole" sometimes, or "march of the pigs" even tho they're both great songs. They put on such a great show i don't think ANYONE would leave disappointed if they left those few out. A friend of mine was at the Rochester show, and HLAH is probably the only song she knew, but she thought it was a fantastic show anyway.

and BTW..if you really miss Dinosaur BBQ I can send you guys some bottles of their sauces. it really is the only good thing about Rochester hahaha