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rainbow_cnxn July 8 2008, 15:19:14 UTC
Haha, glad to see that you typed this up and laid it out so clearly, too! Thanks.

I think that "everything can be forgiven" is a great way of encapsulating so much of Shirley. And despite my personal feelings regarding her type of love, I can now recognize it for something subjectively beautiful. I do like her, and I guess what drew me to her is that she is so damned honest all the time. She wanted to make Lelouch like her so much, but she wasn't going to compromise her own identity to make that happen. She will continue to be her own Shirley, and Lelouch will eventually like her for who she is, goshdarnit!

It does make a nice contrast to Euphie and Suzaku whose relationship always struck me as a bit off though still beautiful in its own right. The non-conversations that typify the Trio exist here (and in greater force)--truth lurks right beneath the surface of conversation but never breaks through (and is rejected outright in Stage 20). The two of them always struck me as two rough-hewn pieces trying so desperately to fit these elegant niches for which they were ill-suited. Their relationship was built upon need and forcing themselves to take on roles that were somewhat antithetical to their true selves, while Shirley had a tempestuous relationship with Lelouch that, for her part, was never forced.

And now I'm feeling a bit more down. Oy, Geass...

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realms_of_life July 10 2008, 23:46:39 UTC
lol. You've made me do this. XD Our discussion on your journal made me obsess about them really badly.

I love the way Shirley ended. I think canon was very nice to her. And as usual, Sunrise surprises us with their 180 turns when it comes to make us believe they messed up a plot for good, and then show us how brilliant they are with a few, well chosen lines. I love Geass text so much it is painful. ;__;

Love your image about Euphemia and Suzaku. Yes, I totally agree with what you say.

They are very oppressed by their status in society, aren't they? Euphie was too high and untouchable, Suzaku was too low and worthless. I also think that the huge difference between them was that Suzaku was always running from himself while all Euphemia ever wanted was to be herself, but nobody would recognize her as such. She had to fight and compromise, over and over again, and that was never enough for the people she loved the most. Very tragic, if you ask me. :)

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rainbow_cnxn July 11 2008, 00:55:38 UTC
And yet that tragedy was still so beautiful. Because despite how she wasn't allowed to break free of her role, she still loved and loved and loved boundlessly--for Suzaku, for Zero, for her people, and for the Japanese, all of whom could legitimately be called her captors.

;_____;

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