Another kind of underdetermination

Mar 20, 2004 23:42

After my old set of thinking almost shriveled up and died as it collapsed into some kind of pragmatism, I've been trying to think of some way to maybe integrating the brutal new with the crushed old. I try to link CC and pragmatism by linking up their common traits. This is when I happen to spot something pragmatically-related called ( Read more... )

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pooperman March 21 2004, 06:37:27 UTC
I've been thinking of abusing Heisenberg as an analogy to what I think you are saying here:

D(method1)D(method2) > h/(2p)

Where: h/(2p) represents some minimum amount of total doubt in how any system or method works. Emphasizing one method comes at the expense of the other method, creating the illusion of an either/or conflict (or, as jeffrock might put it, a "diametric opposition"). Precision is limited by the nature of knowledge (among other things), and quests for the "truth," as defined by "perfect" knowledge of anything, is not only quixotic but downright missing the point entirely.

The thing about the uncertainty principle in physics is that in spite of the doubt, or perhaps because of the doubt and the fact that we have acknowledged it, we can use that doubt to our ends. That is, there is utility in humility.

D(free will)D(determinism) > h/(2p)

D(body+matter)D(soul+consciousness) > h/(2p)

D(logic)D(intuition) > h/(2p)

;)

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sisyphus March 21 2004, 09:18:35 UTC
Oh, man, what are you Luce Irigaray now?

Personally I think that you take the Heisenberg Principle as Absolute means you are clearly under the phallocentric spell of patriarchical Other that blinds you to the Feminine hermeneutic. When you realize that the dialog of Heisenberg, and the failure of modern Logic to address the fact about itself -- that it should be viewed as optional rather than as a coercive force used by the dominant power structure to enforce Western ways of thinking on society. Then, and only then, you'll see the conceptual error you have fallen into.

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pooperman March 21 2004, 09:48:51 UTC
I'll have to plead ignorance on Luce Irigaray--I'll google her after this reply.

I'll also have to plead the inability to determine if you are being sarcastic in your statement or you believe what you wrote there. I'll respond assuming the latter, because lately sarcasm totally eludes me unless someone puts a ";)" tag on there somewhere, or something similar.

Realize that the way I used Heisenberg gives you the choice between logic and intuition--it admits that neither is better than the other and both are necessary. I regard formalism as the structure by which inspiration can leave its mark.

The well-chosen word (the word is a product of formalism) is one of the hallmarks of a good poem (the poem is a product of intuition and inspiration).

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pooperman March 21 2004, 12:46:33 UTC
OK, after googling Luce Irigaray, I offer the following:

D(penis)D(vagina) > h/(2p)

;)

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brianj June 30 2004, 12:25:57 UTC
Embodied Realism might work for you. Check out "Philosophy in the Flesh" by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson.

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nanikore June 30 2004, 13:06:03 UTC
Okay. Thanks.

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