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Oct 29, 2007 21:10


I'm feeling so happy. I never thought it was possible to feel the way I do now. Having a home. Our home. It still feels kind of strange, thinking about it this way. The furniture's arrived, and now that everything's in place, I have to say that I'm quite pleased with the final effect. It's very... classy. In a way. I especially love the blue lights ( Read more... )

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erudite_vagrant October 29 2007, 19:19:28 UTC
Out of line does not begin to describe it, Amycus. It doesn't come anywhere close to describing it. And it was not a joke to them.

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ravingamy October 29 2007, 20:00:25 UTC
I know. I'm sorry. It's just the way they talk. He doesn't actually mean it.

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erudite_vagrant October 29 2007, 20:17:05 UTC
He certainly bloody well sounded like he meant it. And it's not okay, and it's not acceptable, and the appropriate reaction is bloody outrage.

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ravingamy October 30 2007, 09:23:19 UTC
I know its not acceptable. But he really doesn't mean it. He's not that kind of person. I'm... really sorry.

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erudite_vagrant October 30 2007, 14:49:45 UTC
I know you are, Amycus. I know he is too, but mostly because everyone's shouting at him and he doesn't realize what's so wrong about the whole thing.

That's the unacceptable part. That he really doesn't get why and how horribly messed up it is. And I know that's how he grew up, and that he's new at this, but there comes a point where he's got to grow up and learn a bit about the damn world he lives in.

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 05:52:23 UTC
You said it yourself. That's how he grew up. And he will change, but it's not going to happen overnight. I'm not trying to defend him, I'm just saying he needs time. And he's really a good person.

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erudite_vagrant October 31 2007, 06:11:56 UTC
He's a grown-up now, Amycus. He's responsible for his actions whatever he was taught, and those actions include seriously considering kidnapping and hurting children, and I fail to see how that translates to being a good person in your head.

It'd be wrong if he was doing that to dogs but this is fucking kids and don't tell me he wasn't really going to do it, because he was, and that's fucking sick. It's fucking depraved.

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 06:13:30 UTC
He's not. He's made a public apology, Benjy. The least you could do is give him a break.

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erudite_vagrant October 31 2007, 06:22:35 UTC
He's not what?

I appreciate that he is sorry that he upset people, I do. And he doesn't have to fucking well apologize to me because that's not the point.

The much larger and much more serious issue is that I don't think he understands why he upset people at all.

And if it didn't upset you, I figure he'd not have a problem doing exactly what he was talking about. And it's not just him and you know that and I know that. But he still would have done it, fucking well reads like he still wants to do it.

And I seriously lack words for how not okay that is.

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 06:26:53 UTC
Not upset? You think I'm not upset? You don't have a clue, do you? Of course I'm not upset that my best mates and my boyfriend are fighting. Or that he could ever think that way. What the fuck do you take me for?

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erudite_vagrant October 31 2007, 06:46:58 UTC
What the fuck are you talking about? I know you're upset. Of course I know that. And I'm saying that seems like basically the only thing keeping him from actually doing what he's talking about. And that's a horrible burden for you, not to mention pretty messed up in general.

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 06:48:49 UTC
Forget it. I don't know how to deal with this. And I'm not sure I can either. I don't wish to fight with you.

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erudite_vagrant October 31 2007, 07:04:26 UTC
Yeah, well, I'm not looking to fight with you either. And, seriously, short of just immersing him in pure Muggle culture for a while, I don't think there's anything you cand o. Which does not make it any more acceptable, but it's true.

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 07:05:37 UTC
Well, what do you think living in a Muggle neighbourhood is all about?

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erudite_vagrant October 31 2007, 14:32:40 UTC
What do you want me to say, Amycus? That he...gets some sort of pass on saying shite like this because he doesn't know better?

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ravingamy October 31 2007, 14:34:15 UTC
No. I just want you to give him time. Or even give me time to try to help him change those views that were deeply ingrained in him since young.

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