Moi? Gullible? XD

[ravenstar84]

But that's not the important part.

I reread the wank thread that went on over at HMS_STFU and tried searching other places, but does anyone know where white women tears was even mentioned concerning STFU? I'm lost.

And note to the anons: white women tears can not be racist nor misogynist. It is a counter attack on white womenhood (or white women

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[summeriris]

It is a mess Ravenstar, no doubt. I read that poem and all your posts. I don't know what to say really. As usual my words desert me and I don't understand. There is one point I would like to say. Racism and bigotry is bad for everyone. It is bad for the oppressed, but it is also bad for the opressor. We are all human and I firmly believe that. Karma is a bitch and we all get bitten, sooner or later. I am a woman who belongs to an ethnic minority, but I also have a white skin. That skin does not give me that much privilige, because no matter how white my skin is I don't posses a penis in my ethnic group and that is a drawback to having brains it seems

[ravenstar84]

"That skin does not give me that much privilige, because no matter how white my skin is I don't posses a penis in my ethnic group and that is a drawback to having brains it seems."

I'd say that has more to do with sexism within your ethnic group. Unless you mean that not everyone within your community is/looks white?

Let me clarify though, everything that I'm explaining (even the links I give) are more centered around U.S./North America race issues. White privilege is a worldwide thing, but I know things get slightly different depending what country or culture you're in since race is handled differently in different places. My only issue for this post was the anons' interpretation of white women tears, which I don't know how it exists out side U.S./Canada.

[lovemime]

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this part:

"That skin does not give me that much privilige, because no matter how white my skin is I don't posses a penis in my ethnic group and that is a drawback to having brains it seems."

Mostly because my mother is Japanese and my father is Caucasian, and that I look more white than Asian, but the way some people treat me can vary dramatically on whether or not they believe that I am white or have an Asian parent. Very funny and edgy lines like 'You have big breasts for an Asian' and 'Why do girls in Japanese/Asian porn cry? LOL'... are situations that aren't usually presented when somebody thinks I'm simply a white woman

[summeriris]

I sincerely hope that you understand that when I say that those remarks are the type of thing that angers me. I don't cry, but I do get angry that any human being should have that type of thing said to her. But on the other hand I don't want to be accused/excused because of my anger. I can't really put myself in your place, how can I ever hope to say that I can? I can get angry and I can support groups that work toward stopping this kind of behaviour but I cannot put myself into your skin anymore than you can understand the subtleties of my experience. And let me say no Gypsy man would ever make a sexual remark to me. He would cut out his tongue before doing that. He would do is simply ignore any sign that I have a mind of my own. I am retired from work and collect a pension and I am still referred to as a 'girl'. It gets old, just as I am getting old. Old age will bring it's own form of condescension and patronizing and it is staring me right in the face. I suppose what I am saying is that I don't want to be classed as 'some white

[ravenstar84]

Hey, as I said in my other post, the concept of "white women tears" is mainly an American concept (as far as I'm aware) since it relates to mostly American race issues. If you look at the links in my post as well as my replies in these comments, it's actually about a lot more than just white women crying actual tears.

[summeriris]

What I am trying to say Raven is that I dont like umbrellas/type casting or the lumping together of stereotypes. It is too easy to lump people together like that. I understood the poem and I try to understand your point of view, but I would e lying if I tried to say I was not offended by the poem's lumping all white women together a shedders of tears over their hurt feelings at the accusation of them being bigots. Not all white women feel like that, not all POC accuse them of feeling like that, and nobody is perfect. I keep coming back to the word human. That is how I look at the world. We are all human and God knows I have caused offense and I know it. Being sorry does not always cut it and then I have had to live with the knowledge that I have hurt someone's feelings. the only thing I can do then is try not to repeat my mistake. That's how I try to live anyway. I have a lot of understanding friends anyway. Perhap's living in the UK that makes it easier for me

[ravenstar84]

As I said, everything I have linked in my post is concerned with American racism and white privilege in the U.S. I don't like lumping people together either, but there is a reason why that poem was written. There's so much that has and is and still going on here in regards to these issues. In a nutshell, whiteness/white privilege in the U.S. has it's own history. I know the U.K and the rest of Europe have their own problem regarding race/whiteness, but things are still very different here.

Taylor Swift is one of our current popstars who's songs I admit or kind of catchy, but her lyrics have proven very problematic. The other problems she's caused is in article I linked.