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fpb June 9 2013, 20:40:25 UTC
1) You would do me a favour if you did not indulge in the invention of an abstract anti-death-penalty campaigner designed to suit your priorities, and then apply that to me. I am not so stupid as to use the word "cruel" to condemn any punishment; no punishment is punishment unless it is unpleasant, and intended to be unpleasant. Kindly deal with what I say, not with what you would like me to say.

2) Ditto. If you haven't heard me RAGE about abuse of powers by various so-called "free" states, you can't have been listening. And the fact that you START by admitting that abuse of power is routine ("the price of liberty is eternal vigilance") does absolutely nothing to argue for the death penalty: since they abuse their powers with respect to our money or our businesses, hey! Let's give them power over our lives! Please present a slightly less illogical argument.

3) And pigs fly.I am not even disposed to discuss the possibility that wrongful death sentences might not happen. This is so horrendously irrational that it makes me wonder whether the discussion is worth having.

4) Obviously, it differs in that you are not deciding whether to have a man killed according to your own, or a few people's, wholly subjective perception of his (her) degrees of intent and purpose.

My country abolished the death penalty in peacetime in 1891. It was brought back by Benito Mussolini in 1926, and abolished again, and for good, on the significant date of June 6, 1944 - the day when the city of Rome was freed. As far as we are concerned, it is counted with torture, arbitrary arrest, and secret courts, as a relic of barbarism and tyranny. And if you compare the murder rates in the USA and in Italy, you may find that we do pretty well without it.

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