Snubbing the Oscars

Feb 26, 2012 18:15

Actually, it won't be that strange for me to snub the Oscars this year. I usually just keep it on in the background while I'm doing other things and watch the opening monologue, memorial video for the Hollywood dead, and then tune in for the Best Movie. Last year, happily it was "The King's Speech" a movie that richly deserved to win. This year - ( Read more... )

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summeriris February 27 2012, 12:43:56 UTC
Ok, this is a serious comment. I'm not picking on anybody, not even Snape. I was crushingly dissapointed with the films. One of the reasons that I was so dissapointed with them was what I thought was the shockingly poor way Snape was treated in the films. I couldn't beleive how much the character was cut out of GOF. HBP was all about teenage romance, not about The Half Blood Prince and how Voldemort became Voldemort. The films did not concentrate on the plot of the books, instead they concentrated on how well Emma Watson looked while getting all of Ron's best lines. That's harsh and I think Emma matured into a fine young actress. I think the films had the cream of British acting talent. I think the art design and production values were first class and that all of that was wasted. To take an example. The Prince's Tale. I know Jeanne you think it was very well done. How much better would it have been if they had stuck to book points. Snape at Godric's Hollow did not make sense plot wise IMO. His scene in Dumbledore's office...just think about how powerful that could have been. The films...I get so angry about the films. They should have been great. They shouldn't have needed any kind of defense like you have up here. The acting talent was there, the plot was there, the production values were there, and they failed to deliver. I'm not angry at the Oscars, I'm bloody furious at Warner Bros.

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wobblerlorri February 27 2012, 15:58:12 UTC
You make excellent points. I think WB made the first 6 movies with an eye on the kiddie and young teen audience. Then the dime dropped for them that real live adults were ponying up for this movie, and not just as the adult ferrying a crowd of kids to see the "boy wizard" movies.

I believe that's why DH 1&2 were darker, more intricate, and appealed more to adults than to kids. IMO. Not to mention it stuck closer to the book than any of the others.

We all know I think Snape was horribly short-changed; quite honestly, all the actors were horribly short-changed, and the books should have been followed more closely.

And in the end, I think that's why the entire series of HP films was snubbed by the Academy. They didn't stick to the books, they took plot liberties, and in the end were mostly fluff.

Thank god for the books.

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summeriris February 27 2012, 16:34:47 UTC
I think what really got my goat the most was the duel between Harry and Voldemort at the end. In the book Harry had one kick-ass speech. He demolished Voldemort and acknowledged Snape in the same speech...and it was cut. Like it was never there. And the duel occurs without a single witness, and then Harry snaps that broken twig of an Elder Wand in 2. My mouth hung open, I literally could not believe my eyes. Why the hell didn't they get a better adaption done. I don't care if Rowling liked 'The Baker Boys', after the debacle of HBP it should have been clear the films were going in the wrong direction. Both HBP and DH came out in 2007, Warner Bros knew how the book was going to end and they stiffed the fans anyway.

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snapes_witch February 27 2012, 19:07:38 UTC
Agree! It was really disappointing that Voldemort never found out that Snape was never 'his'.

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summeriris February 27 2012, 20:20:54 UTC
Oh Snape was his, the Dark Mark proved that. What Voldemort found out from Harry was that Snape changed sides when Voldemort didn't keep his word to spare Lily. It's not clear in the books how long it took Snape to realise that Voldemort wasn't the type to keep his word, but Snape did eventually realise this.
But this has nothing to do with that stupid film. It's book canon and the film makers did not have any respect for the book canon. If the film had put the book plot on the screen the movie might have stood a chance of getting recognition. They didn't and the films stank. Having said that the art production was wonderful. I got the most gorgeous book for Chrristmas. It's huge and it's crammed with stills and designs from the films. Beautiful book, expensive too. My grandsons saved up for it for me.

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ravenstar84 February 27 2012, 21:35:35 UTC
I agree with everything you said. As much as I enjoyed both DH movies and most of the films, none of the films have ever satisfied me. The characterization of many characters never worked well for me, and things started to go really downhill starting with OotP. As much as I can't stand Alan Rickman's take on Snape, I would have no problem with him receiving an Oscar for DH, IF I thought the films actually did a good job showcasing Snape's character. Alan Rickman is a great actor, and Snape's character could easily earn an Oscar for any actor who could do a good job with him. But the films don't give any of this a chance. Heck, I think Daniel Radcliffe could have had a chance to be nominated for OotP if they had included all of Harry's angry angst moments, especially when he blew up in Dumbledore's office. If the films put more into characterization as much they do for visual effects, HP could have qualified for an acting nomiation at least 4 movies ago.

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snapes_witch February 28 2012, 00:40:51 UTC
Is it Alan Rickman's take on Snape or Steve Kloves's (and Michael Goldenberg) and whoever the movie director happens to have been?

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summeriris February 28 2012, 07:42:49 UTC
I don't think Alan Rickman got a chance to play Snape. The script and directors in every movie whitewashed and gutted the character. I think Alan Rickman probably did a happy dance when he heard that he was going to play Snape and then was crushed every time he actually got a script, but he's a proffessional, he kept doing his job. And he probably didn't actually do that much work. Snape didn't get a lot of screen time. He was virtually a cameo.

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ravenstar84 February 28 2012, 17:42:17 UTC
It usually depends on the director, but every director and cast/crew has their own way of doing things. And even so, each director it seems has tried to continue the work of the last one. Alan Rickman has been doing the same thing since Movie 1 and it doens't seem anybody had a problem with it to my personal disapointment.

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