Yeah, they broke me into tiny little pieces, but in a good way.
However, the one reset I'm not fond of is Peter growing up in the red!verse (if we assume the Jacksonville trials were already underway) because it means that blue!Walter remains on the same path as Bell, and Olivia doesn't get the same closure.
Yeah, I can understand, it wouldn't be a happy ending for Olivia, but I'm still so very intrigued by the possible riffs from that scenario. And like I said, post finale reaction, I am very content with the ending the writers provided, there's not much I can add to a finale like that. A kinder version of the observers - with the same tech and the same ability to jump between realities - makes perfect sense, too.
*beams* Yes, you definitely could. I snigger every time I hear Olivia's first impression of Peter - a massive pain in the ass - because oh my god did she hit the mark with that one.
I enjoyed the finale quite a bit, especially seeing the return of cortexiphan!Olivia, and the various weird creatures/inventions from the first season or so again. I loved seeing Red!Olivia and Lincoln being happy and having a family, while Amber!Olivia and Blue!Peter get to have theirs, too.
Yeah, adored that scene between Lincoln and Olivia - that tiny hint of 'survivor's' guilt that Lincoln shows and Olivia picks up on, and AltLiv and Lincoln too, 'quit checking out my young ass' : ) They were adorable.
"ridiculous and stupid," never. This show has meant the world to me over the last few years. I'm not even at mourning yet, still swimming deeply in denial.
I'm trying to put together my incoherent notes, and quoting this: And if they had to do a reset, I was personally hoping it would be a complete reset - Walternate saves Peter without the Observers - and he grows up in red verse. -- Despite having predicted the park (like everyone else), I had really come to wanting this ending, too. Like you, I want to see all the fic it would have brought. And that's not a sad or unresolved ending to me.
Please don't delete this. :) The comments about Walter still possibly having snatched Peter is a fascinating variation, I need to think about that further.
"ridiculous and stupid," never. This show has meant the world to me over the last few years.
Yeah, I lost it from the moment Peter discovered the tape, and ate my weight in chocolate trying to make myself feel better. *snorts* On re-reading this post, my concept of a 'bullet point' needs correction. Regarding Walter possibly snatching Peter, yeah, sorry, I have reams of head-cannon based on this show, and you don't want to get me started on the concept of 'Walter that was'
Fringe finalelivejournalJanuary 21 2013, 19:49:12 UTC
User kerithwyn referenced to your post from Fringe finale saying: [...] So...not so much averted? Or averted just enough. But it's still hard to swallow. rainer wrote [...]
Blue-verse, the first three seasons, are told as individual chapters, and yet they're strongly connected together. The writers start all over again after season three and present us with the amber-verse, but season four and season five are just as strongly interconnected as those first three seasons.
Can't remember which ep it was now, but like Walter says in season four, powerful events in the future can ripple backward in time. If the finale in 2036 is the powerful event, then 1985 is the first point of change, and if the beginning of season four posited that both versions of Peter died because there were no observers, then season five is showing us, step by step, how that came to pass, everything else in between is the writers playing catch-up, leading the audience by the nose and showing the sequence of events that lead to it.
I was thinking about posting this on the archive, just to get a discussion going, but while it's fandom related, I'm not sure if the AO3 is proper forum for it.
*g* Given just how spectacular they both look in their fifties, I'd say AltLiv shouldn't have any worries at all. Yeah, I can see how it could be read that way, competition is competition, but I also think twenty-odd years of marriage is time enough to be comfortable with what they mean to each other, hence the teasing.
The ageing thing has always kind of amused me. They aged Peter in the The Day We Died, greyed his hair, made his jowls more noticable, gave him Walter's widow's peak. They aged Walter, too, pulled one side of his mouth down to indicate a stroke at some stage, and with Olivia, they changed the parting of her hair. And gave her 'adult' clothes. lol
Season five, they aged Nina and Broyles, and on the other side, best botox ever
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However, the one reset I'm not fond of is Peter growing up in the red!verse (if we assume the Jacksonville trials were already underway) because it means that blue!Walter remains on the same path as Bell, and Olivia doesn't get the same closure.
Yeah, I can understand, it wouldn't be a happy ending for Olivia, but I'm still so very intrigued by the possible riffs from that scenario. And like I said, post finale reaction, I am very content with the ending the writers provided, there's not much I can add to a finale like that. A kinder version of the observers - with the same tech and the same ability to jump between realities - makes perfect sense, too.
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I'm trying to put together my incoherent notes, and quoting this: And if they had to do a reset, I was personally hoping it would be a complete reset - Walternate saves Peter without the Observers - and he grows up in red verse. -- Despite having predicted the park (like everyone else), I had really come to wanting this ending, too. Like you, I want to see all the fic it would have brought. And that's not a sad or unresolved ending to me.
Please don't delete this. :) The comments about Walter still possibly having snatched Peter is a fascinating variation, I need to think about that further.
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Yeah, I lost it from the moment Peter discovered the tape, and ate my weight in chocolate trying to make myself feel better.
*snorts* On re-reading this post, my concept of a 'bullet point' needs correction. Regarding Walter possibly snatching Peter, yeah, sorry, I have reams of head-cannon based on this show, and you don't want to get me started on the concept of 'Walter that was'
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Can't remember which ep it was now, but like Walter says in season four, powerful events in the future can ripple backward in time. If the finale in 2036 is the powerful event, then 1985 is the first point of change, and if the beginning of season four posited that both versions of Peter died because there were no observers, then season five is showing us, step by step, how that came to pass, everything else in between is the writers playing catch-up, leading the audience by the nose and showing the sequence of events that lead to it.
I was thinking about posting this on the archive, just to get a discussion going, but while it's fandom related, I'm not sure if the AO3 is proper forum for it.
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The ageing thing has always kind of amused me. They aged Peter in the The Day We Died, greyed his hair, made his jowls more noticable, gave him Walter's widow's peak. They aged Walter, too, pulled one side of his mouth down to indicate a stroke at some stage, and with Olivia, they changed the parting of her hair. And gave her 'adult' clothes. lol
Season five, they aged Nina and Broyles, and on the other side, best botox ever
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