intelligent debate

[rainbowfox9]

I'm trying to figure out how to come up with arguments for things. I was looking at an article about something controversial, the Mozilla CEO who's been recently hired, who had given $1000 to support prop 8 which banned gay marriage in CA, and taking in all the different comments, viewpoints, etc

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[rainbowfox9]

to me, it's partly just getting shit done in someone's life (whether that's creative or professional or personal/relationship) but now that I think about it more, I think what I mean more is just not whining about things. Not discussing things ad nauseam because you're not trusting yourself or you need yet *another* sounding board. Just go ahead, make your decision, and get on with your life. What I've been hearing from my friends is not only the same old sort of topic (troubles or even growth associated with them) but also the same attitude. "I want you to help me," even if it's in the form of listening, which is also a kind of help.

I want the people I care about to just go ahead and make the decision, whatever it is, and stop wallowing in their lives. I can't help people more than they are willing/open to being helped. I can't help them, really, except just to listen.

There are other people who want to get ahead and have 'fire', as I would call it, but also regularly (unconsciously) practice self-sabotaging behaviors. but I'm not in a place to show them this.

I 'tend' people for quite a while, helping them get on their feet, showing them I care, and when I find my attention span has been reached (which is pretty long), I take space. I know everyone grows in different ways, at different paces, and has different ways of processing, but certain people keep worrying about stuff and that's a very hard attitude/behavior pattern for me to continuously be around or listen to.

I'd rather someone went ahead and made a mistake then learned from it and moved forward than completely flail where they are.