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woodyfanon September 16 2010, 20:50:52 UTC
wasn't there a similar show two-five years ago about women getting radical surgeries to look good for their "men"...something called 'swan'?

It's not exactly a new show...which is even worse.

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bella_cheval September 16 2010, 20:58:15 UTC
Yup, it was "The Swan." Some of the women were perfectly pretty before the surgery and afterwards looked like really bad drag queens.

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bemysty September 17 2010, 00:05:19 UTC
I do not read this from the original comment at all. Your projecting makes me uncomfortable.

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bemysty September 17 2010, 00:18:06 UTC
No. The original comment only expresses that the women looked a lot better ("pretty") before they underwent the procedures (which I would co-sign), and while the choice of "bad drag queen" as a comparison isn't particularly PC, I would consider it accurate from what I've seen from The Swan. Some of them DO end up looking like Patrick Swayze in To Wong Foo, after all.

I read no shaming. Shaming would be if the OC had written something along the lines of "they looked shit before and like a car accident after", while they explicitly stated they found them pretty with their natural appearance.

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bemysty September 17 2010, 00:32:35 UTC
You are obviously searching for anything to project onto, and I refuse to be a part of it. I'm bowing out.

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lysimachia September 17 2010, 01:42:51 UTC
I really think that after you're done bowing out, you need to look up what 'projecting' means.

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myswtghst September 17 2010, 03:36:38 UTC
Really? You really can't understand any of the multitude of ways this is offensive, and not an appropriate thing to say?

Because it isn't. It's insulting to hinge a person's worth on their perceived "attractiveness", and it's insulting to critique a person's appearance, whether it has been altered via surgery, makeup, or nothing at all, because it is their appearance. You don't get to pick and choose when it's okay to make fun of someone's appearance, then act high and mighty because you "think they looked better before surgery" as if that's somehow less of an awful thing to say.

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lysimachia September 16 2010, 22:39:34 UTC
I despised The Swan but I never stooped to insulting the women who appeared on it. Saying they look like really bad drag queens is offensive on many levels.

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bella_cheval September 17 2010, 04:55:10 UTC
I'm sorry :( I should have read what I was typing.

I heartily apologize.

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wineandwenches September 17 2010, 01:45:49 UTC
I agree, though I would have said - "There was nothing wrong with them before surgery, but after surgery they appeared to look very unnatural, and the quality of the plastic surgeon's work was poor."

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chambergambit September 16 2010, 22:19:01 UTC
I never got the impression that they were doing it for their "men." Some of the women were single, iirc.

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woodyfanon September 17 2010, 13:57:29 UTC
That is true although as I recall, many of them did the surgeries to appease other people (family, job, significant others).

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