HDU call Neil Gaiman racist

Apr 28, 2010 14:49


In 2008, Neil Gaiman described why he didn't set The Graveyard Book in America: "The great thing about having an English cemetery is I could go back a very, very, very long way. And in America, you go back 250 years (in a cemetery), and then suddenly you’ve got a few dead Indians, and then you don’t have anybody at all, unless you decide to set ( Read more... )

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wasabirobot April 28 2010, 19:04:25 UTC
This.

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elledesu April 28 2010, 19:11:17 UTC
Yep.

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exactly woodyfanon April 28 2010, 19:19:57 UTC
i used to be obsessed with gaiman since I was 12 years old (and I'm 31 now) because I thought he knew his shit and that was someone I looked up to and now I gotta turn around and say to gaiman 'Bitch please'

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milleniumrex April 28 2010, 19:31:54 UTC
Creator says something dumb on the internet, tries to backpedal. Seems more eyeroll-worthy than ragey to me.

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isitnotnifty April 28 2010, 21:02:59 UTC
Weird huh.

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j_u_d_a_s April 28 2010, 21:19:12 UTC
I don't know what to believe anymore.

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nietzschekeen April 28 2010, 22:49:44 UTC
hahahaha ia

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isitnotnifty April 28 2010, 21:06:12 UTC
I'm a little confused. Native Americans had different burial practices before Europeans. Wouldn't it make sense that if you wanted to set a book in a graveyard that was really old you wouldn't set it in the Americas? (I'm not saying that his statement wasn't horribly worded and implying large gaps and trivializing people.) I know Native Americans did have burial grounds, mounds, graves, etc. But the practices might not have followed what he wanted to write.

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nietzschekeen April 28 2010, 22:54:11 UTC
1) "A few dead Indians" is beyond horribly worded. Also, in my opinion, something being horribly worded and so sounding racist is in fact still racist.

2) He adds later the Vikings to the list of characters he could use, who also were not buried in Graveyards, as is explained in her original post.

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isitnotnifty April 28 2010, 23:42:28 UTC
Throw the Vikings in there as people who wouldn't be buried in traditional western ways. (Stick me in a boat and burn me and all my stuff.) I think he was trying to point out that at a certain point you wouldn't have people being buried there. And if you did, there would be one or two Native Americans and perhaps a Viking if they happened to get buried there coincidentally. Sometimes when people say things on the spur of the moment, it comes out in ways they would rather it not. I'm not saying he wasn't being a racist twat, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know sometimes there's a concept in my head that comes out horribly because I can't figure out how to properly word it.

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phaetonschariot April 28 2010, 22:54:30 UTC
Yes. Also, he's not American, AFAIK. The problem is basically the horrible wording and trivialising and history fail etc, at least to me.

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eald April 28 2010, 23:36:23 UTC
Oh, Neil, and I used to like you so much.

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