CSB: I go to a salon to get my male-style haircuts. I've been going there for about eight years for both male- and female-styled haircuts and they've been wonderful.
more like, I'm pretty sure that the original meaning of the Arabic is sort of like how those words work in the Bible; that is, whatever "touch" is, probably means more like "making out" rather than mere casual contact. If it were true that muslim men cannot touch women AT ALL that they weren't related to/boinking, you'd see them not being doctors, not being dentists, and not being a lot of other things, as well. Except we DO have Muslim doctors and not one of them has ever complained that they're not allowed to touch women that they aren't related to or boinking. We'd see Muslim men with bubble zone personal space somehow. But we don't.
What I'm saying, is that if they truly believe that they're not allowed to touch women (except as per the stated exceptions), they're in an extremist branch of Islam. Such as the Taliban, which has such fucked up ideas as Women cannot be examined by male doctors (that aren't related to them), only women can examine and touch them, but then they say women can't be doctors. *headdesk* These are
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Just like there are a bunch of different sects of Christianity there are a bunch of different sects of Islam. Different groups interpret their religious texts differently. Kinda like like comparing Orthodox Judaism to Liberal Judaism.
There are a lot of Muslim women who won't go to a male doctor and that is why there is such a demand for female doctors in heavily populated Muslim countries. And most modern Muslim countries let women be doctors because they see the need. You really need to educate yourself before making blanket statements.
Oh I'm fully aware that most muslim countries let women be doctors. I'm talking about the Taliban, which is specific to Afghanistan. I'm talking about the extreme fundamentalists.
But in any case, no branch of any religion should be allowed to use their religion to practice unlawful discrimination.
You are also missing the part where the owner also stated along with the religious part that they had no training with cutting woman's hair at this particular location on that day.
Also, she was told that she could go to their sister store, which is not only unisex hair salon, but its literally 1/2 a block away. (I have had my hair cut at that location, I'm female btw.)
If he didn't have the knowledge, tried to accommodate her by sending her to their other salon and not want to break his religion's rules it sounds like he wasn't wrong.
Long comment is long.ditaykanNovember 29 2012, 06:09:29 UTC
And your point is...?
Presumably the other salon has people who know how to clip short hair too, or people who can figure out how to copy her existing (presumably men's) haircut. Frankly, I don't think there's much else they could do with her hair (it looks pretty short already).
Also, ffs, not getting a haircut at a particular location because someone is following their religion and your being directed to another location associated with the chain where they'll gladly do your haircut isn't a human rights violation. Her being pissed off that she couldn't get a haircut AT THAT LOCATION shouldn't trump their religion. There's no pain and suffering with not being able to get a haircut, unless suffering is walking half a block. There is if the men in question are forced to quit to hold with their religion (no income = in danger of homelessness, starvation, etc.), or know that they're violating their faith to hold a job
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Because it makes the story more sensational. They can claim that they're running it because of anti-lesbian bias instead of trying to point out the big bad Muslims.
The CBC does not, nor has it ever, cared about "pointing out the big bad muslims". What it does care about, is Lesbians. If a Lesbian comes to them and tells them she was discriminated against as a woman, they will listen to her. Likely religion wasn't even in the mind of the complaintant. She simply heard "we can't serve you because you are a woman" and acted on that basis alone.
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CSB: I go to a salon to get my male-style haircuts. I've been going there for about eight years for both male- and female-styled haircuts and they've been wonderful.
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What I'm saying, is that if they truly believe that they're not allowed to touch women (except as per the stated exceptions), they're in an extremist branch of Islam. Such as the Taliban, which has such fucked up ideas as Women cannot be examined by male doctors (that aren't related to them), only women can examine and touch them, but then they say women can't be doctors. *headdesk* These are ( ... )
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There are a lot of Muslim women who won't go to a male doctor and that is why there is such a demand for female doctors in heavily populated Muslim countries. And most modern Muslim countries let women be doctors because they see the need. You really need to educate yourself before making blanket statements.
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But in any case, no branch of any religion should be allowed to use their religion to practice unlawful discrimination.
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Also, she was told that she could go to their sister store, which is not only unisex hair salon, but its literally 1/2 a block away. (I have had my hair cut at that location, I'm female btw.)
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1288023--woman-denied-haircut-goes-to-human-rights-tribunal-of-ontario
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But I think the larger point of antisexism has to be made.
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Presumably the other salon has people who know how to clip short hair too, or people who can figure out how to copy her existing (presumably men's) haircut. Frankly, I don't think there's much else they could do with her hair (it looks pretty short already).
Also, ffs, not getting a haircut at a particular location because someone is following their religion and your being directed to another location associated with the chain where they'll gladly do your haircut isn't a human rights violation. Her being pissed off that she couldn't get a haircut AT THAT LOCATION shouldn't trump their religion. There's no pain and suffering with not being able to get a haircut, unless suffering is walking half a block. There is if the men in question are forced to quit to hold with their religion (no income = in danger of homelessness, starvation, etc.), or know that they're violating their faith to hold a job ( ... )
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