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tool_of_satan July 13 2010, 18:28:51 UTC
These sound appealing. I will add them to the ever-growing list.

And, yay love for The Once and Future King. I need to read that again, although I need to decide which version. (That sounds simple but I can agonize over decisions like that for ridiculous amounts of time.)

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rachelmanija July 13 2010, 18:55:24 UTC
I imprinted on the one where Morgan Le Fay lives in a castle of disgusting food, as Dad read me the first section of that one aloud when I was a kid.

When I got to college, I was amazed to learn that nearly all of the mad hawk Colonel Cully's dialogue was taken from Jacobean plays.

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tool_of_satan July 13 2010, 19:07:09 UTC
If memory serves, that's a chapter in The Sword in the Stone. Probably in both versions, but it might have only been in the revised one. (The first three volumes were revised when they were published as a single book, and the first volume had the most changes.) I don't think she's still living there in The Queen of Air and Darkness.

I did not know that about Colonel Cully! Of course I have never read a Jacobean play, nor seen one either that I can recall.

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rachelmanija July 13 2010, 19:17:29 UTC
Jacobean drama is AWESOME.

My icon is from the film version of The Revenger's Tragedy, directed by Alex Cox (Repo Man). The very last shot is horrendous and makes no sense, but the rest of the movie is great and extremely faithful to the satirical bugfuck bizarreness of the original play. Starring Christopher Eccleston (the Ninth Doctor Who) as Vindice, a creepy avenger who carries around the skull of his dead wife; Eddie Izzard, as a sexy sexy villain; and Derek Jacobi, as an evil Duke. Everyone dies and/or goes mad at the end. (This is not a spoiler for Jacobean drama.)

Most of Colonel Cully's dialogue is from The Duchess of Malfi, in which the Duchess's brother hires a hit man to off her for reasons which he is never quite able to articulate other than vague protestations of "honor," but seem to be sexual jealousy; there is a Cardinal who develops the delusion that he is a werewolf; the hit man, who reminds me a lot of George R. R. Martin's Sandor Clegane, sort of falls in love with the Duchess but that doesn't end well; ( ... )

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tool_of_satan July 13 2010, 19:29:59 UTC
I've at least heard of some of these. I feel slightly less ignorant now. The Revenger's Tragedy is the play they perform in Tam Lin, right? I expect it would make more sense if I weren't trying to follow the play and book characters at the same time. And if I could actually see the play, of course.

Everyone dies and/or goes mad at the end. (This is not a spoiler for Jacobean drama.)

Snrk.

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rachelmanija July 13 2010, 19:30:46 UTC
That's the one!

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tool_of_satan July 13 2010, 20:13:31 UTC
a very sexy brother-sister incest couple

I cannot possibly be the first person - nor yet the hundredth - to think of rewriting the Star Wars movies as Jacobean drama. Right?

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marfisa July 16 2010, 05:55:27 UTC
Actually the Duchess of Malfi's brother's official reason for trying to have her killed is that she's secretly married her secretary (she was a widow) and gotten pregnant by him. This supposedly besmirches the honor of her family, since she and her brothers are aristocrats and the secretary is a poor nobody. But both brothers (the "werewolf" cardinal is her brother, too) are so obsessed with policing the Duchess' sexuality that there seems to be distinctly incestuous subtext (on their side--the Duchess does not reciprocate) in this play, too.

Oh yeah--"The Duchess of Malfi" and "The Revenger's Tragedy" are both by John Webster, who makes a brief appearance in "Shakespeare in Love" as the kid who complains that Shakespeare's latest play should be more gorily over the top, or something to that effect.

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