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tgies July 20 2009, 04:47:31 UTC
Have you seen you can actually get an arbitrary raster area and draw to it from Javascript? Look up .

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r_transpose_p July 20 2009, 04:50:25 UTC
whoa shit!

Thanks!

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tgies July 20 2009, 04:58:05 UTC
As far as silly DOM-shuffling graphics and animation effects, everyone is using pre-rolled libraries for that, because doing it from scratch and having it work well in every browser is just a whole lot of work. Yahoo UI, Jquery UI, script.aculo.us, the list goes on.

I find I use plain old Jquery, if not Jquery plus the UI module, in almost every real project I work on. It's pretty indispensable.

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angelbob July 20 2009, 15:59:15 UTC
Bear in mind that Canvas doesn't really work in IE, including IE 8.

There's an extension to make that kinda-sorta happen, but it's ridiculously slow and only barely usable.

On the plus side, if you're using most browsers, canvas is totally awesome :-)

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damn r_transpose_p July 21 2009, 02:56:54 UTC
Now I wish I used windows so I could see what people use to do "google maps" and "google street view" for IE.

do those even work on IE?

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Re: damn angelbob July 21 2009, 03:03:21 UTC
Yes, they work fine on IE. They mostly do server-side dynamic stuff, and simple JavaScript repositioning. It's harder when you need things you can't/shouldn't serve as dynamic bitmaps from the server.

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Re: damn r_transpose_p July 22 2009, 03:40:40 UTC
Hey, where do you work these days? What sort of stuff do you do?

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Re: damn angelbob July 22 2009, 03:43:59 UTC
I work at ACCESS. We make operating systems for SmartPhones. If you want to have your ear talked off about our OpenGL display server that we're building, call or email me and ask.

Really it's mostly built and we're just adjusting little bits here and there, but I'm still more than happy to discuss it at length ;-)

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Re: damn eub July 21 2009, 08:03:30 UTC
What's worse, they work on IE6. I feel for the people who deal with that every day; it sucks my will to live just thinking about it.

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r_transpose_p July 22 2009, 05:00:16 UTC
Hey, what about scriptable SVG?

how does that compare?

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angelbob July 22 2009, 14:45:37 UTC
That, I don't know. I've never really used it.

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